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It's an overclocked 8350. The stock performance might be up there but the chips wont really OC much. There's really no point at all in getting one. Especially when you already have the same chip.

And even then it's not comparable to a high end i7. The hexa i7s are in a league of their own.
Hell my laptops i7 3630qm still destroys a fx 8350
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But your post I was replying to said that it would be a waste to put money into SB-E which as a statement is incorrect if Steamroller can't compete with SB-E.

And secondly if steamroller happens to be as fast or faster than the 4770K even just in multithreaded scenarios (my money is on it not being that, I'll gladly bench mine against any SR chip, but of course we don't know) it will be priced accordingly. AMD has again and again proved that when they can charge more for their CPUs or GPUs they will do so. If the FX 8550 or whatever the name will be is going to compete with the 4770K it will also be priced on par with it.

And intel doesn't have to bring out 8-cores on the mainstream, a 8-core haswell chip would be more than twice as fast as the fastest AMD consumer CPU right now. There's zero need for a 8-core intel to combat AMD's offerings. The hexa cores already decimate the 8-core FXs without any trouble by more than 50%, especially when overclocked, in fact, even the early 2010 hexas still more than out perform AMD's chips. And the current hexas aren't even up to date.

Incorrect once again. The performance improvement in Sandy-E is perhaps overall about 25% -30% higher than Vishera FX-8350. The cost of E is almost 3 times the cost of $180.00 Vishera. Just not worth the difference in price. If it was 100% faster I could see a $400-$450 price point, but that is not the case.
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Incorrect once again. The performance improvement in Sandy-E is perhaps overall about 25% -30% higher than Vishera FX-8350. The cost of E is almost 3 times the cost of $180.00 Vishera. Just not worth the difference in price. If it was 100% faster I could see a $400-$450 price point, but that is not the case.

Across the board a 3930K is about 45%+ faster then an 8350. Not sure where you're pulling 25-30% from and it's only 170% More expensive.

539.99 - 3930K
199.99 - 8350

Newegg prices
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Incorrect once again. The performance improvement in Sandy-E is perhaps overall about 25% -30% higher than Vishera FX-8350. The cost of E is almost 3 times the cost of $180.00 Vishera. Just not worth the difference in price. If it was 100% faster I could see a $400-$450 price point, but that is not the case.

When all cores are used:

SB-E is almost 50% faster than a 3770K. Around 45% when all cores are utilized.

In those scenarios the 3930K is more than 50% faster than a 8350. And that's being kind to the 8350. In some instances like in cinebench the 3930K can be as much as 70% faster when all chips have been OC'd.

And I have both, I've experienced the stuff myself.
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When all cores are used:

SB-E is almost 50% faster than a 3770K. Around 45% when all cores are utilized.

In those scenarios the 3930K is more than 50% faster than a 8350. And that's being kind to the 8350. In some instances like in cinebench the 3930K can be as much as 70% faster when all chips have been OC'd.

And I have both, I've experienced the stuff myself.

You're right, but that's comparing a $570 CPU to a $190 CPU. A classic "my daddy can whip your little brother" argument. I know you weren't the one who made the argument to begin with, but anyone who wants to compete with a big-ticket Intel CPU using an AMD processor in a multi-core, multi-threaded environment needs an Opteron, not an 8350.
     
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Hell my laptops i7 3630qm still destroys a fx 8350

Please stop trolling biggrin.gif
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You're right, but that's comparing a $570 CPU to a $190 CPU. A classic "my daddy can whip your little brother" argument. I know you weren't the one who made the argument to begin with, but anyone who wants to compete with a big-ticket Intel CPU using an AMD processor in a multi-core, multi-threaded environment needs an Opteron, not an 8350.

No they need a 900 dollar FX 9590 lachen.gif
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Across the board a 3930K is about 45%+ faster then an 8350. Not sure where you're pulling 25-30% from and it's only 170% More expensive.

539.99 - 3930K
199.99 - 8350

Newegg prices

You mean 270% more expensive?

Anyway, 25-30% is just trolling... Why these two chips are being mentioned in the same sentence is beyond me.

The 8350 competes with the i5 and even then it loses more than it wins. Anything with the moniker 'Core i7' from Sandy Bridge and up bests the best Piledriver.
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Your i7 3770K has 8 logical cores which has 1.5 ALUs/1.5 AGUs with a shared datapath and membus & 1 Mul or Add FPU. My FX-8320 has 8 logical cores which has 2 ALUs/2 AGUs with a dedicated datapath and membus & 2 Multiply-Add FPU. I don't need to run anything to prove that my processor is superior to yours.

Even i find this ridiculous.
 
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You mean 270% more expensive?

Anyway, 25-30% is just trolling... Why these two chips are being mentioned in the same sentence is beyond me.

The 8350 competes with the i5 and even then it loses more than it wins. Anything with the moniker 'Core i7' from Sandy Bridge and up bests the best Piledriver.
It was mentioned because a site was selling pre-orders for the FX-9590 at $900, putting it in the same price-point as sandybridge-e.
Also everyone knows that the more you spend, you get diminishing returns. Its like a car, spend $50,000 on a Chrysler 300C and get luxury, power and class, or spend $90,000+ on a BMW M5 which is only slighly more luxurious, slightly more power, and slightly more class. Same applies to computer parts. Yes Sandybridge-e is only roughly 50% better then say the i7-3770k and costs however many % more, but the fact is its faster. Its like when you get into the high end Xeon's, you may as well have gotten a serverboard and stuck 2 3930k's into it.
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