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Is that a mistype? $160 dollars?

If you are considering buying a 5ghz processor, you probably are wanting to achieve a little more than day to day applications. Nobody is asking you to buy it.

I'm referring to the 8320 being around $160. You get the same chip. Just buy a cooler and ramp up the multi to x47/50 and bam you have a cheap 9590.

All 8320s should do 4.7GHz easily.
 
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I'm referring to the 8320 being around $160. You get the same chip. Just buy a cooler and ramp up the multi to x47/50 and bam you have a cheap 9590.

All 8320s should do 4.7GHz easily.

Oh i see. Sorry.

But anyway I agree with the previous poster about the competition aspect. I dont believe in being a fanboy, I really love AMD's price/performance and for the most part I never do anything processor intensive, but with that said I still love Intel just as much, especially their Xeons, the new E3 V3's look awesome. I want AMD to succeed as much as possible so that neither of them have room to slack off, competition is great for everyone no matter what.
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the fx9000 would definitely have AM3+ socket , but as for the fx9590 i dunno.
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$250-$300

I'd probably buy it over the i5-3570K and -4670K but not over the 3770K and 4770K.

https://twitter.com/AMD_Unprocessed/status/344480543217430528

Not trying to troll or anything, and I know you're citing AMD's twitter.. but really? For a person that names their sig rig after the Latin word for truth, citing a tweet to back up your point is a little bit on the counter-intuitive side.

To be honest, with what Z87 boards cost, and the fact that it already been stated that it will most likely released to OEMs only, it's a moot point to say what you would or wouldn't buy it over. What's important is that we should all wait to see just how the 9590 performs, as it seems that it will be an indication of the architecture changes that will be fully developed and implemented with Steamroller. If the 9590 kicks some butt, it gives all the more reason to have hope that Steamroller will be a great processor at launch. Like I said in an earlier response above, We should all want AMD to nail it on these two processors because it will make the desktop CPU market competitive again, and we'll all win in the long run that way.
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You're probably right about the price, as AMD hasn't had a desktop CPU cost more than $225-$240 at launch in as long a time as I can remember. However, I think that if these are a desktop release of the improvements made with the Richland APUs, it could surprise quite a few people with how good this processor has the potential to be. After all, the FX-8350's were a decent step closer to the i7-3770K, which to be honest is the most even intel offering for it to target. Closest fully unlocked 8 thread capable processor. Grant it that in most single threaded benches you'll see the i7 win by 15-30%, but in multi-threaded uses the 8350 gets within 5-15% of the i7. If the improvements on the 9590 release and the Steamroller translate into around a 20-30% improvement in single threaded operations, with the memory controllers for Steamroller currently stated to handle 2133MHz without OC, that will pull AMD within about 10% in single thread and potentially about even or ahead in multi-thread. The 9590 could be a big shot across Intel's bow leading up to the launch of Steamroller next year. As others have said in the FX-9000 thread, if the 9590 and Steamroller end up pulling AMD processors within about 5-10% or so of Intel i-7 performance, and maintain their average cost of being around 1/3 to 1/2 less... Intel could be in big trouble in the next couple years.

The reason that Intel lovers like yourself and many others on here should stop your fanboy chest-thumping and actually be excited about this is it would lead to three things. First, Intel would be almost certainly forced to lower prices. Second, Intel would almost certainly be forced to launch an 8-core mainstream processor. And Third, we would see Intel and AMD in a neck and neck R&D race again for the next several years... which leads to better performance leaps and hardware available to all of us at lower prices. So at least be hoping (in quiet closet secrecy if you must) that AMD hits a home run with the 9590 and the Steamroller because if they do, we all win big in the long run.
Intel is enough far ahead of AMD that they are keeping themselves back, while AMD is struggling. Whatever AMD ends up releasing, Intel can roll out a new cpu that will destroy it. I mean, look at their die sizes and power consumption!

FX-9000 alone is definitely not going to change anything to AMD's favor. You have over 200W TDP, no PCI-E 3.0 support and considerably less SATA 6Gb/s connections to begin with. The following sums it up pretty good.
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Expensive CPU for PR purposes.
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Intel is enough far ahead of AMD that they are keeping themselves back, while AMD is struggling. Whatever AMD ends up releasing, Intel can roll out a new cpu that will destroy it. I mean, look at their die sizes and power consumption!

FX-9000 alone is definitely not going to change anything to AMD's favor. You have over 200W TDP, no PCI-E 3.0 support and considerably less SATA 6Gb/s connections to begin with. The following sums it up pretty good.

Yeah. Basically its the Titan of AMD's CPUs, except it isn't remotely the fastest CPU on the market unlike the Titan was with GPUs and still is.
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Im not someone who has high hopes or anything like that, but please don't pretend like you've seen or done benchmarks on this new chip. Nobody has concrete evidence on the performance so stop acting like you can already make assumptions on anything. Speaking to everyone..
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Im not someone who has high hopes or anything like that, but please don't pretend like you've seen or done benchmarks on this new chip. Nobody has concrete evidence on the performance so stop acting like you can already make assumptions on anything. Speaking to everyone..
Its a 5ghz 8350 people have benched basically the exact same thing...
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Not trying to troll or anything, and I know you're citing AMD's twitter.. but really? For a person that names their sig rig after the Latin word for truth, citing a tweet to back up your point is a little bit on the counter-intuitive side.

To be honest, with what Z87 boards cost, and the fact that it already been stated that it will most likely released to OEMs only, it's a moot point to say what you would or wouldn't buy it over. What's important is that we should all wait to see just how the 9590 performs, as it seems that it will be an indication of the architecture changes that will be fully developed and implemented with Steamroller. If the 9590 kicks some butt, it gives all the more reason to have hope that Steamroller will be a great processor at launch. Like I said in an earlier response above, We should all want AMD to nail it on these two processors because it will make the desktop CPU market competitive again, and we'll all win in the long run that way.


There's no need to get rowdy Spaceman. Twitter link was intended to be informative not supportive of my post. Its cost and commercial availability is anyone's guess but FOR NOW it is suspected to be OEM-only based on official announcement (Link via Twitter).

I don't see how AMD is going to 'nail it' with this chip. At the end of the day, it's just a highly ramped up 8-core Piledriver -- nothing architecturally new to reason hope that it is game-changing. If you want to see the FX-9590 at work, make your way to the Vishera owners club. There are plenty of FX-8320s and -8350s running at 5GHz+
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