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Hey guys,

I'm thinking about getting a new computer... at say, $1300 price range. I was originally thinking of the $220 Ivy Bridge. Now Haswell is out. It's $250. The motherboard will probably cost a good $20 more at least. So that's $50 more. Haswell overclocks less than Ivy but is more efficient per clock... but we have to factor in the $50 larger price tag and the heat! I'm sick of CPU review sites that compare overclocked Haswell to stock ivy. Of COURSE Haswell overclocked will beat Ivy, stock it will as well, but that doesn't mean anything. I don't feel too compelled to spend $50 on the new CPU line. I'm going to have only 1 SSD, 1 normal hard drive. Not going to use any usb 3.0 ports actually. So what's in it for me in the new chipset? I can get the 3570k for $225.75 shipped, taxes included if I buy before the 17th.

But if I wait til' the end of the year, I bet Ivy Bridge will be all bought out as Haswell is the new thing. Adding to this I heard that the 9000 series from AMD is said to be scheduled at the end of 2013. This is from Wikipedia, sourcing an interview at Tom's Hardware. It also makes sense seeing Maxwell is just starting to be on the horizon... remotely, and AMD can set the card in time for the holidays.

So if I wait till' end of the year I might get 9000 series but I won't be able to get Ivy. I can buy it right now of course.

...Of course this is all just speculation on my part.

I was thinking a good $220 cpu overclocked on a $120 motherboard with something in the price range of a 7870ghz. Skyrim is a bit more CPU demanding when I have NPCs all over the place and I play a few games that are singlethreaded... bottlenecking on my 2.73ghz Q6600 running at 25%. It's maddening.


What do you think on this whole issue? Is my thinking sound?


Thanks! smile.gif
Edited by Darkwizzie - 6/11/13 at 10:05am
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If its just for a gaming build I would go with IVY, because you could put the 50$ saved and add that to your GPU budget for better performance.
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I am coming from a Q9550 and what pushed me to get a haswell is mostly for the z87 chipset. Most mobo's have 8-10 sata3 ports, 4 rear usb3, 2-4 front usb3, and the newer onboard audio ALC1150 chipset.

So while the performance is the same you get a lot more from the new motherboard, plus you're on the new socket. Chances are whatever comes after Haswell will still be on the LGA1150 socket because it is the "tick" part of the cycle so maybe the Broadwell will OC better and you can sell your Haswell on ebay.
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I see Seventyfive but based on the way I use my computer I won't benefit from that new chipset at all. The most I'd get is the new audio but I'm considering putting a sound card in. No word yet on whether that new sound is better than the older 800 series of ALC though.

I guess it's settled then... either going with Ivy or going with nothing. What's the single-threaded performance jump from Q6600 to Ivy? Google seems to think it's a little bit more than x2.
Edited by Darkwizzie - 6/11/13 at 4:00pm
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XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
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We went from Q6600's to ivy bridge i7's at work and i can't tell you an exact quantifiable number but subjectively it's a massive improvement that can't be overstated.

I agree, if you're going to just game and have a couple hard drives, you're probably better just going ivy then. Plus you should be able to get some good deals now that haswell is out.
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