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Has there been any new statements on how this ten people sharing a game is going to work on the Xbox One? I mean they put a rather hard restriction on loaning a game to some one...It can only be done once though I am still wondering if you could borrow the same game from different people...like if you didn't get a chance to finish it something. With that policy inplace I find it very hard to believe that they would just open up your entire game library to any old ten people you want. Perhaps they will all have access to the credit card? Though heck...even in a close knit family I can see the card holders not wanting the whole family to know the credit card info.

It just seems too good to be true when compared to everything else they got going on...and I can't see any publishers willingly accepting this policy. You'd think it would cut their game sales by a factor of ten basically, but that would be if every customer had ten people sharing a library. You think it would at least cut sales in half because to my knowledge two people can't play the same game at the same time right now on the 360...each person must have the game disk.

It is looking like the family game library might be a large advantage to owning a Xbox One...does Sony have anything to offer in competition? If each person is going to need a game disk then Microsoft's deal is much better.

LoL why are you dreaming up such morbid situations? Credit cards?
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Since its announcement, there has been some confusion over the details of sharing your Xbox One game library with up to ten "family members." Mehdi couldn't give comprehensive details, but he did clarify some things.

For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area

All you're doing is telling the system which xbox live accounts you'd like to be able to share your gaming library (which will behave like a Steam library) with.
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The only caveat might be that it has to be the same 10 people. Who knows. But at setup you can define who your family members are.

So if your buddy down in a different state buys a game, he can share it with you INSTANTLY. The second he stops playing, you can start playing. Hence the internet connection to give you the token. Then the second I'm done playing, he can play. You can't do that with discs. This is a HUGE benefit. Imagine trying to ship your game discs across country. You can play while he's in class. He can play while you're at work. Somebody else can play while you two are sleeping....and you can all be in different countries.....Tell me that's not freaking awesome.
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The only caveat might be that it has to be the same 10 people. Who knows. But at setup you can define who your family members are.

So if your buddy down in a different state buys a game, he can share it with you INSTANTLY. The second he stops playing, you can start playing. Hence the internet connection to give you the token. Then the second I'm done playing, he can play. You can't do that with discs. This is a HUGE benefit. Imagine trying to ship your game discs across country. You can play while he's in class. He can play while you're at work. Somebody else can play while you two are sleeping....and you can all be in different countries.....Tell me that's not freaking awesome.

Here's another situation people aren't thinking of.

You can share your game with a friend 1000 miles away, but you can't play that game at the same time.

So that friend goes offline and plays. What is to stop you then playing? The system doesn't know they are playing and will only check to see if they are 24 hours later.....

It will be quite interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think we've seen the end of all of this yet.
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Here's another situation people aren't thinking of.

You can share your game with a friend 1000 miles away, but you can't play that game at the same time.

So that friend goes offline and plays. What is to stop you then playing? The system doesn't know they are playing and will only check to see if they are 24 hours later.....

It will be quite interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think we've seen the end of all of this yet.

Actually, from I've read you can play at the same time as the "family member", but only one family member and you can play the game at the same time so the other nine people have to wait their turn (unless it is a single player game and every one goes off offline after starting the game...might be a loop hole there). This a large step up from the current system where each person playing a game on a different device must have a game disk.

Heh, like I said...just seems too good to be true.
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Actually, from I've read you can play at the same time as the "family member", but only one family member and you can play the game at the same time so the other nine people have to wait their turn. This a large step up from the current system where each person playing a game on a different device must have a game disk.

Heh, like I said...just seems too good to be true.

Hmm that sounds pretty cool if true then.
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Actually, from I've read you can play at the same time as the "family member", but only one family member and you can play the game at the same time so the other nine people have to wait their turn. This a large step up from the current system where each person playing a game on a different device must have a game disk.

Heh, like I said...just seems too good to be true.

I was hoping with this digital stuff and people exploring more licensing scenarios that maybe your friend could play with you only if he was the CO-OP member and the game was being hosted by somebody that purchased the game. This is just optimistic thinking and something I doubt will ever actually happening, but it'd be sick say I bought the game like borderlands, and my cousin could join in on Co-Op even though he doesn't actually own the game. This is the way I'm thinking about all of this. The negative impact doesn't bother me at all...probably because it doesn't impact me at all...
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Hmm that sounds pretty cool if true then.

Link to one story with the quote though that one is more negative I see...just ignore that for now and focus on MS's statement.

I think I may see what the catch is if you read between the lines though.
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Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

The bolded part could mean that only one person on the list and you (the primary owner) could access the library at anytime. So family members 1 and 2 might not be able to play different games off of the list at the same time. That would put a decent restriction on things...but still much better than what we have now on any console that I know of. Though I am not fully versed in such things.
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this isn't news. this policy is the same as ps3-all we can do is speculate about whether game companies will implement it this time
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Same thing as the PS3

of course XBONE fans are gonna try to make this huge
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