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Where the hell they said that? If that was the case, every game can be pirated.

Here is what I heard about the policy:

1. You can "sell" the game to a friend (and only one friend) who has been in your friend's list for over 30 days.
2. The game can only be "re-sold" it once.
3. If you want to "sell" it instead, you can't just hop on eBay and sell it. Instead, you can only trade-in it to certain places (probably GameStop) and sell it at cheapo prices.
4. The thing you are talking about ("lending") is considered a "family and acquaintances" thing. I am sure there is a catch on this short of you "lending" the game to anyone you see fit for free without a trade-off. I am damn sure the trade-off is that you still need to give out a link to your XBox Live account doing so. Also, if your so called "friend" decided to do a hack or something that subjects to a ban on XBox Live on your "lent" copy of the game tied to your account in some way, you will be banned as well.

So yeah sure that is a great feature, but I won't even give out an association of MY XBox Live account to the game I am "lending" with that method to anyone outside of family. Period.

So no, it is not the same. I rather not get my XBox Live account associated to a friend over getting a physical disk scratched.

Also I am sure with the PS4 you can backup your games from disk to drive too. That tech shouldn't be omitted by any console going forward anymore.

Pretty much this, was thinking to reply that user but it seems somebody else already gave his answer (well people, dozens of times)

Everything you're gonna do with Xbox one will depend on Microsoft. If they say ''ok we're cancelling lend thing completely and no borrows'' what are you going to do ? Do you think they wont say this in one day ? Unlikely.

As much as you're gonna whine about PS4 and it's DRM policy, it's almost the same thing of PS3 one, which players have zero problems with.

Restrictions about everything, 10 people must be relatives and must live close to you because microsoft will check ip adressess, then what ?

O yeah you can play your game for 1hour only if you're not aunt bla blaa..

No thanks, i'm not buying ICBM from Microsoft it's just darn console.
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I'm sorry, but as an Otaku, I just can't stand the English language track, and am appalled when the Japanese one is not there.

It's not only Japanese games either, you can get cheaper games if you're a savvy shopper, and know how to use UK, and French shopping sites.

This shouldn't be problem anymore because the consoles both have Blu-ray, and are able to store more audio tracks.
No more console parity issues, except for the fps issues on Xbone, it's hard to develop for, whereas the PS4 has facilitated the development area.

Devs are actually using PS4 tools to develop x1 games because the Sony utilities are more streamlined.
Not that I care for peasant games, but Sony is also nicer to devs looking to make some money for their hard work.

But my main points are, you can get a game that's 39.99 here, for 9GPB from the UK, no forced DRM, you actually own the system and games. biggrin.gif

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Too bad neither method of sharing games effects me. When my friends want to play my Xbox games they take my Xbox 360, HDMI, 4 controller and my 20 games and run off to their house.
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Too bad neither method of sharing games effects me. When my friends want to play my Xbox games they take my Xbox 360, HDMI, 4 controller and my 20 games and run off to their house.

If you want to go the trustworthy, old-school path then yes that works too.
    
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If you want to go the trustworthy, old-school path then yes that works too.

Only really hardcore console games worry about sharing games and such. Buying most games in steam and those that i buy as hard copy are account liked like BF3, GW2, SC2 etc etc so the idea about selling used game does not apply for me and most PC gamers.
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The PS4 online pays itself every year, it gives you free AAA games, free cloud storage, free discounts, free themes, free videos. Also, you won't have to look far for the many ''buy this game, get 3 months sub free'', if you buy a game once every three months, you're safe, if you buy games regularly, you're golden and can sell the sub codes online.

Instead of buying your coffee from Starbucks for one day of the month, switch to mcdonalds for that 1 day, then you'll have enough money for a sub.
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We were all discussing this in a prior thread, and as soon as I pointed this out the thread died and I doubt anyone read what I had to say. Publishers can do this right now on PS3 if they want to (I said 3. not 4). Nothing is changing with PS4.
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Because me, along with most other console owners in the past 30 years, have been doing it like that and I would sound ridiculous if I stated something as obvious as that...
And what if I want to sell it because I can't pay tomorrow's lunch..?

then why are you getting something you can't afford?
 
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I will get the PS4. Im not even considering the XBONE
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I just can't feel that way. I've got over 300 games in my Steam library, over 50 titles on my GOG.com account, a bunch more games through the various Humble Bundles, a lot of them are DRM free or at least have complete, infinite offline modes, of which I don't have enough time to even play half of them.

So I just can't feel shafted because one or two AAA games either don't hit my platform or come out later for it.

That depends on your tastes in games. If you're not really into Metal Gear, Killzone, Uncharted, Bayonetta, Resistance, Halo, Virtua Fighter, Final Fantasy and most other Japanese RPGs, anything from Nintendo, anything with motion controls, and any other games and devs which don't prioritize PC, there's no reason to own a console. But with the number of games that don't make their way to PC, a lot of those games being those that many are interested in playing, there's very much a reason to own at least a few consoles in addition to other gaming options if you're interested in what's out there.
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