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I need a new case. Bitfenix Shinobi is like $19AR + $13 shipping, so like $32. It's from the gamma days or so, so I'm worried it's not too up to date. Or, if the 200R was a better case for the price, kinda worried it's too small. I need to fit a 280mm radiator in the front - I plan to pop the rivets and remove the HDD bays and cd bay, so dont worry about it not fitting because there a hdd bay in the way. i suppose that might mean it needs to fit 2x140mm fans in the front... surely I can mod that to make it work...

I'm not opposed to a mid-range case, but that'd have to really be above and beyond. I don't care about windows, I think all case windows look like crap because they use cheap plastic, and regardless of whether the case has a window or not. I'm going to cut it up and put my own custom cell cast acrylic window in the case anyways.

I also dont care about the crap stock fans any $150 or under case comes with that are total garbage anyways. Or 'case airflow', case airflow is the fans you put into it and the more mesh/ventilation = more noise and the hdd bays (which I'm removing anyways, at the very least for aesthetics, i mount ssd behind mobo, dont need a mobo mount i just shove it back there).

Thanks.

edit: 500r is $69. dunno if that means anything...


Bitfenix Shinobi ~$30 at frys shipped vs Fractal Design Arc Midi R2

Can you fit an H110 in the shinobi if you mod the front, but keep the cd bay (basically, is there 312mm of space from bottom of inside of shinobi to bottom of cd bay)?

I dont mind modding, ultimately I just want to know the quality difference in these 2 cases, build quality, cable management. I could care less about silly stuff like fans, fan filters, a crappy cheap plastic window, toolless design, etc. Constuction and wire management is more important.

Of course I'll consider any decent case under $100 but these seem to be the 2 top choices for me right now. I dont mind modding the shinobi but i do rather want to keep my cd bay.
Edited by Belial - 6/14/13 at 3:25am
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Up. I have just no clue what to get for a case...
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Up. I have just no clue what to get for a case...

What country are you shopping from so I tell what website can we see the inventory?

And look at the review on this page...
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/best_case_your_pc_build_8_new_chassis_tested_rated

Edit: Also, what price where you looking for?
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You'll probably be bored of whatever you get within like a year or two, so don't shell too much out on it unless you absolutely love it.
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I'm in the US. i thought it says that somewhere on my avatar area but guess not, ill change that...
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And look at the review on this page...
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/best_case_your_pc_build_8_new_chassis_tested_rated

Edit: Also, what price where you looking for?

I've never seen a good case review, so whatever. like so much useless stuff about cases - usb 3.0, who cares dont use it, i have it on the back anyways, i can always swap the usb ports if i really cared, fan filters are cheap and just use pantyhose, windows always are crap plastic i use custom windows anyways, etc. I want to know about cable routing, fan spacing, radiator mounting, removability of hdd bays and cd bays and anything else, clearance, build quality...

that said, that review seemed pretty good. they talk a lot about build quality and fan slots. The R2 seems pretty solid, and I just confirmed that an H110 can fit into the arc midi (without modding, removable hdd bays).

I mean I'm looking for a price of $20-40, I've never been impressed with spending more than a solid budget case. But I'm okay with spending up to ~$100, maybe little more, if it yields a significant improvement in quality. To me, it seems to get the best case, is just buy a cheap case and mod it (custom window, punch out the hdd bays by drilling out the rivets, use an LED strip, maybe some paint job). I mean really, aesthetics is the most important part of a case.

I mean case airflow is, as i said, a matter of the holes or not and how many crappy fans you should throw away, that it comes with. More holes = louder, so i dont really see any case being cooler than another (or if it is, then it's much louder). HDD bay affects cooling, but I always rip that out, so nothing is obstructing air flow. there really isn't much difference in cases.

I mean, even though I change out my heatsink and such and throw my single SSD and tons of molex and fan cables behind the mobo panel, I stil make it work with a case like a source 210 (i even made it work on the gamma). So like space behind the mobo isn't even that important. I really don't think much is important in a mobo. Like toolless HDD bay... who cares. You could mod it if you really cared, and no one is installing hdd/ssds so much that they can't be bothered to use a screw driver. It's just retarded.

I also only use a single ssd as my entire system storage, dont use much usb or anything. I mean features that really matter to me is just.... build quality, fan mounts (esp. 140mm stuff), cable management (ie holes above motherboard, lots of cable tie spots)... doesnt look like some GaMeR piece of crap.
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You'll probably be bored of whatever you get within like a year or two, so don't shell too much out on it unless you absolutely love it.

haha right. I think its dumb when people are like 'spend a lot on a case so it lasts you'. In 2-3 years, low end cases are better built and have more features than high end cases did. Really isn't expensive to increase space behind mobo, make it 140mm fan mounts, etc. My nzxt source with the custom window, custom sleeving, and LED looks a million times better than any stock case.
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I'm considering the Arc Midi R2 for $64. fits an h110 in the front... dunno what else is good about it.

That or the ~$30 shipped Shinobi. I'd have to mod it. I guess pop out the CD bay and HDD bay (as I would do, but in r2 they come out on their own, not that i care, but just interesting), and then drill holes into the case, which is super easy to do. Then, I hide all case cables behind the fan/radiator/fan of the h110.

So... shinob vs arc midi r2, shinobi is significantly cheaper... hm...
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Bump. Still considering :X

edit: yea i think im gonna go bitfenix... i dont think i very much like the look of the R2. I can just mod the shinobi. I'm a bit worried I have to tear up the cd bay (gotta hide cables somewhere, and removing the hdd bay really makes cable management much more difficult). Which I'm pretty sure I'll have to do, hopefully I can just take a dremel and make a small hole in the bottom of the cd bay for the corsair h110. or something. i can figure it out when I get it. Maybe I can hide molex connectors behind the h110 and no longer really need the cd bay in the first place.
Edited by Belial - 6/14/13 at 3:51am
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I think I'll go with the bitfenix for ~$35 shipped tigerdirect. Half the price, and looks way better. The fractal design arc midi r2, im sorry, it just looks ugly and very plain and goofy with the round sides.

Got a lot of modding to do, oh well. I'm a bit worried about not being able to keep the cd bay but I'm sure I'll figure a way to hide the molex cables. Im sure I can hide it behind the h110 or something in the end anyways.
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