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I'm like a lot of you in this thread apparently, not interested in Glass but interested in the evolution of the tech. I was actually interested in it until they revealed what it could do, not being able to make a call, no 3/4G and the battery life were all deal breakers for me, I don't want another device, I want my phone out of my pocket and onto my face. biggrin.gif
Edited by Oddworld Abe - 6/13/13 at 5:45am
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The number of people who do not realise this is an extension of your smartphone is shocking.
The number of people who think Glass is hands-free is shocking.

Can we please at least clear the lies from the table before circle-jerking over this "new" tech?
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this will basically complete the new passive comfy surveillance state .


More of a "well it wont guys.. mm... but it could sneaky.gif


Kinect
Google Glass
Skype
Facebook

All the same companies in a big meeting this week along with all the western leaders and head of the security services. Someone somewhere is going to flick the switch soon, just like the ex-nsa guy said


CCTV is old crap now they realized that the best way to spy was to spy passively < think about that one its cheaper and much more widely adopted


you have to admit the "wont but could" potential is unbelievable now?
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Glass doesn't have it's own 3g. It just piggybacks off of your phone that is in your pocket.

On a similar note, lets not pretend that your phone that is constantly transmitting a few inches from your nads is any better than having a bluetooth device on your face.

I see this as a failure.
If a normal consumer buys a smart phone and a data plan in order for them to connect another device to the phone they then need to purchase an additional Tethering subscription.
***yes you can root and get it for free but that is not the normal consumer***
So now you have a $200 phone, ~$100/month plan, ~$30/month tethering service, +taxes,fees,insurance... +Google Glass $$$ for 1 person.
+ if glass is going to run over blue tooth it needs the latest version, so you HAVE to buy a new phone.

Too complicated and expensive to use a product like this from the start.
Hopefully that isn't how it works at all, and there are better options.
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Glass doesn't have it's own 3g. It just piggybacks off of your phone that is in your pocket.

On a similar note, lets not pretend that your phone that is constantly transmitting a few inches from your nads is any better than having a bluetooth device on your face.

+1 for saying "nads"
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I see this as a failure.
If a normal consumer buys a smart phone and a data plan in order for them to connect another device to the phone they then need to purchase an additional Tethering subscription.
***yes you can root and get it for free but that is not the normal consumer***
So now you have a $200 phone, ~$100/month plan, ~$30/month tethering service, +taxes,fees,insurance... +Google Glass $$$ for 1 person.
+ if glass is going to run over blue tooth it needs the latest version, so you HAVE to buy a new phone.

Too complicated and expensive to use a product like this from the start.
Hopefully that isn't how it works at all, and there are better options.

So you would rather pay a second entire subscription for the glass's own 3g, as well as have an even bigger device hanging off your head, creating even more radiation to microwave your brain, with 1/3 the battery life, all while rendering the vastly more powerful smartphone in your pocket redundant?

Never mind the fact that adding all the hardware required for that will probably double the cost of the already expensive device AND render it region and possibly even carrier specific.

Oh, and might I remind you that you still aren't allowed to sell your Glass. If you switch phone providers with your hypothetical 3g enabled self-processing glass version, you can pretty much kiss $1500 (at current pricing) down the drain.

I guess we have different definitions of failure. Personally, I see the telecom companies payment model as the failure here. Glass itself is fairly well designed and just needs some tweaks and maturity.
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You sure about that? How many times have you seen someone standing in line behind you, or sitting on a bench somewhere nearby with their phone? They're just texting or playing a game right? Maybe talking on the phone with it on their head? Clearly you aren't the object of their attention, right?

Guess what, in all those positions, the camera is pointed away from them, potentially at you (or anyone else in the area). How do you know it isn't recording? There is no blinking red light on camera phones.

There is literally no way for you to know you are being recorded with a camera phone. At least with google glass the user needs to be looking directly at you, with their entire head, very obviously.

And hey, lets face it, anything you wouldn't want recorded you probably wouldn't do with some random stranger staring directly at you either.

At the end of the day, google glass is a lot LESS compromising to one's privacy than the already ubiquitous camera phone. Now don't even get me started on the easily obtainable and perfectly legal hidden shirtbutton cameras, fixed point surveillance cameras, etc.

I really don't understand all the people who somehow think Glass is going to be the devices that destroy their freedom and privacy, those things haven't existed for decades and there are far worse offenders than glass will ever be.

That said, I'm all for them adding a stupid little blinking light to the thing if that makes all the tin foil hat luddites shut up wink.gif

And we threw away the last shreds of our freedoms because we simply didn't know whether we were under surveillance or not.
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Glass doesn't have it's own 3g. It just piggybacks off of your phone that is in your pocket.

On a similar note, lets not pretend that your phone that is constantly transmitting a few inches from your nads is any better than having a bluetooth device on your face.
Didn't know it is tethered to the phone. That's way better than having a separate 3G antenna, though it still means you are having two devices on you all the time. It's not better, but why do you keep saying that the phone is just as bad as an excuse to not be bothered with the dangers this device might add? Yes, the phone is harmful, but a necessity for a great percentage of people. The glasses can barely find a purpose to even exist asides being a gimmick, and they add a second device that's directly in contact with your head, and constantly having a screen in front of your eye. People overlook this, being excited about the general concept. I would be too, but I can't ignore my health just to have another gadget on me.

It boils down to if people care about increasing the risks, from the minimum risk of having a single phone, to using Google Glass and every product that comes after it. Those things pile up in the end. If they don't care about it, then fine. They should use it.

What I'm saying, since my first post is, that my concerns and in fact, everyone's should be concerns, must be addressed sooner or later.
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Wouldn't want a eye like your profile pic now would we lol, but in all seriousness I do agree with you maybe some more research needs to go into this just because of the proximity to your eyes and brain.

Haha, clever redface.gif. You are right on the money, that's exactly what I'm saying.
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Didn't know it is tethered to the phone. That's way better than having a separate 3G antenna, though it still means you are having two devices on you all the time. It's not better, but why do you keep saying that the phone is just as bad as an excuse to not be bothered with the dangers this device might add? Yes, the phone is harmful, but a necessity for a great percentage of people. The glasses can barely find a purpose to even exist asides being a gimmick, and they add a second device that's directly in contact with your head, and constantly having a screen in front of your eye. People overlook this, being excited about the general concept. I would be too, but I can't ignore my health just to have another gadget on me.

It boils down to if people care about increasing the risks, from the minimum risk of having a single phone, to using Google Glass and every product that comes after it. Those things pile up in the end. If they don't care about it, then fine. They should use it.

What I'm saying, since my first post is, that my concerns and in fact, everyone's should be concerns, must be addressed sooner or later.
Haha, clever redface.gif. You are right on the money, that's exactly what I'm saying.

My point is we expose ourselves to huge dangers every day, and we have been doing so since the dawn of mankind. Every time something new is created or discovered, people spell doom, as if this latest thing is going to somehow push us over some invisible edge, but in the process we all seem to completely forget about how "terrible" the last thing was.

A bluetooth headset is more hazardous to your health than google glass. Sitting in your house with a wifi router bathes you in more radiation than even the oldest and most hazardous bluetooth headsets. Carrying a cellphone, even a "dumb" one, adds exponentially more danger than your wifi router. Drinking tap water exposes you to so many poisonous chemicals that you will die from that before the phone's radiation, and until recently, and still in many nations, bottled water will slowly render you infertile. Anyone who has ever owned a CRT TV or monitor has already done more damage to their eyes than all of that other stuff combined. Anyone who has used a CRT screen as much as any reasonably aged OCN member has already been exposed to more radiation than a lifetime of cellphone + bluetooth + glass use. Anyone who has traveled in an airplane during a thunderstorm has been exposed to enough radiation to dwarf all of that...

Anyone who has ever been inside or near a powered-on motor vehicle has already put their life in more danger in a single encounter than all of the above combined, and we still put ourselves back in that position multiple times every single day without a care in the world. The list can just keep going forever.

And yet somehow Google Glass is the tipping point, after all these thousands of years. Somehow this is that frivolous unneeded thing that does more harm than good and will destroy mankind.

Not like we've ever heard that before.

With everything else we are already exposing ourselves to, glass is a completely insignificant drop of water in an entire ocean of acid. If anything, it might actually be beneficial to our health overall, as it's tiny radiation related hazard is far outweighed by the danger it removes by allowing phone users to see where they are walking/driving.





All of this is to say that if you really want to live without unnecessary danger, you are going to have to lose a lot more luxuries than you seem to believe. That's cool if you wanna live that way, but at that point this whole silly google glass argument becomes rather irrelevant. In short, Glass related dangers are blown wildly out of proportion.




PS - I'm not sure why you keep saying that the screen will somehow damage your eyes. The whole point of the big huge chunky secondary piece of glass is to effectively create a hologram that appears several feet in front of the user, out in space, quite large, and transparent. There is no focusing on a tiny close up surface, and no significant change in total light level between each eye. It's no worse for your eyes than wearing prescription glasses.
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So you would rather pay a second entire subscription for the glass's own 3g, as well as have an even bigger device hanging off your head, creating even more radiation to microwave your brain, with 1/3 the battery life, all while rendering the vastly more powerful smartphone in your pocket redundant?
You took it the other way, but I was implying the absurd cost of it all for the regular consumer for what you are actually getting.
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Never mind the fact that adding all the hardware required for that will probably double the cost of the already expensive device AND render it region and possibly even carrier specific.
Yes agree, that was the point I was making smile.gif
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Oh, and might I remind you that you still aren't allowed to sell your Glass. If you switch phone providers with your hypothetical 3g enabled self-processing glass version, you can pretty much kiss $1500 (at current pricing) down the drain.
I think this only applies to the Beta, Tester, version.
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I guess we have different definitions of failure. Personally, I see the telecom companies payment model as the failure here. Glass itself is fairly well designed and just needs some tweaks and maturity.
No actually I think we share the same view, just read differently biggrin.gif
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