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Poll Results: What should I upgrade his computer with?

 
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post #1 of 9
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So I built my dads computer about 4 years old and has an old Athlon 2 7850 in it. He wasn't doing anything demanding back then but he is using it more now that hes retired than he did when I built it. Lately he's been commenting about how its getting slow lately and so for Fathers Day I was thinking about upgrading it for him. Specs are below and the entire PC is just running stock.

The question I have is this, should I upgrade him to a Deneb chip like my 1090T or FM2, or just get an SSD? His systemboard will take Deneb AM3 chips so I could go that route, the cheapest route. Or I could buy a new motherboard and CPU and move him up to FM2, the most expensive route. Or I could toss an SSD into the system.

My dads computer:
Motherboard: ASRock A790GXH/128M
CPU: AMD Athlon X2 7850BE
RAM: 4GB G.Skill DDR2 800
GPU: MSI HD4650 1GB
HD: Western Digital Black 500GB Sata3
Case: Antec Three Hundred
PSU: Corsair VX450w

EDIT: Should mention that there is a relatively tight budget on this since my sisters aren't going in on this with me mad.gif
Edited by NameUnknown - 6/12/13 at 9:21am
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post #2 of 9
SSD will do wonders - I just stuck a SSD in a build with a C2D 1.4Ghz and it felt like new! Everything else will make encoding / actual computing faster, but it won't "feel" faster (i.e. programs likely won't open much faster, day to day task won't feel faster)
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post #3 of 9
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Thats what I was leaning towards. I put one in my wifes desktop when I built it using a Celeron and it feels much faster than a Celeron should tongue.gif

Anyone else got any input?
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post #4 of 9
Agree completely. Unless he is playing games, you're going to see the most improvement from an SSD.

EDIT: SInce you are putting an SSD on a relatively old Motherboard, you might look into TRIM and wether or not your setup supports it. Using a SSD without TRIM could lead to performance loss over time. TRIM requires both OS support and AHCI support on the mobo. XP does not natively support TRIM but many SSD manufacturers are adding support within the firmware.

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD-Knowledge/TRIM-and-SSD-performance-why-is-it-important/ta-p/100276
Edited by WizardontheJob - 6/12/13 at 9:50am
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post #5 of 9
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If i caught him playing a game I think I would die of shock. He pretty much is using it for Office, email, and stocks, your basic productivity type of work.
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post #6 of 9
In that case an SSD would be sweet. Make sure you transfer his OS and all his program files onto the new drive though.

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post #7 of 9
SSD is the best upgrade you can make.

It will make everything more responsive, little things will become much easier. For example, there's a pause after the window's login screen, with an SSD there isn't. You click on start, there is a pause (you prob don't notice it yet), there won't be anymore.

For office productivity, I would keep the rest of the system and upgrade to an SSD and use the HDD for storage/backup.

128GB will be plenty for your Dad.

Cheers,

Del Boy
post #8 of 9
+1 for the SSD. And a fresh install of windows helps with making it feel faster.
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
I was leaning to SSD due to the Performance Gain per Dollar it would give and now I am definitely heading that route.

Thank you all for your input.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wizardonthejob View Post

Agree completely. Unless he is playing games, you're going to see the most improvement from an SSD.

EDIT: SInce you are putting an SSD on a relatively old Motherboard, you might look into TRIM and wether or not your setup supports it. Using a SSD without TRIM could lead to performance loss over time. TRIM requires both OS support and AHCI support on the mobo. XP does not natively support TRIM but many SSD manufacturers are adding support within the firmware.

http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD-Knowledge/TRIM-and-SSD-performance-why-is-it-important/ta-p/100276
Sorry, just saw your edit. I'm almost 100% certain the motherboard supports AHCI and hes running Win7 so it shouldn't be an issue to have TRIM running.
Edited by NameUnknown - 6/12/13 at 11:15am
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