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No prob smile.gif I enjoy the people there way more.
So then why are you still on this forum?
On topic: Nvidia used this as a way to boost there Titan/ thread.
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I really cant be bothered getting involved in the same old PC vs Console "this is holding this back garbage" but it just gets annoying after a while.

Why do people on OCN, im talking mostly to "PC Elitists" keep moaning about consoles holding us back, yes the hardware is insanely outdated in PS3 and 360 but far out its not like they are holding us back from launching face first into a world of virtual reality, jesus. you guys really over dramatize this argument.

And in 2-3 years they will not be holding PC's back because there are still console games that look as good if not better than most PC games. Yes i know "imagine if they put the PC GPU's to use how good the graphisc would be" Fair enough yes, the graphics would be better, but how much better?

It will be IMPOSSIBLE and i repeat impossible, for them to create a system that can match PC GPU's and still make it AFFORDABLE to the public.

Most PC guys moan about the PC being the best but seriously, what are you actually moaning about? more AA??? smoother lines and better textures? Is it really going to blow you off your seat to see a few better textures? It's almost as if PC gamers are strictly about graphics, its not even like most of you support a genre of game that makes PC gaming more mature or advanced, most still just play generic crap like CoD and crysis 2 on PC. The games you would think are hardcore PC genre type games which require thinking and skill are barely mentioned on OCN.

I'm all for great graphics and PC but after a while it just starts sounding pathetic.

Play games, enjoy games on PC and consoles, quit moaning because the game industry wont change, its just the way the world is.

I typically don't care too much about graphics, but you'd have to be pretty oblivious to think that consoles are not holding back the technology involved in games. Really the number one thing that is being held back isn't graphics...it is physics. The PS3 and XB360 just don't have the CPU power to run highly complex physics calculations. I honestly don't expect graphics to get all that much better on the new consoles...some, but not a lot. However, I am really looking forward to physics really taking off since now a game could take a whole core and dedicate it to physics if it wanted plus the GPU will be more capable to help in this area as well.

Games are made for the lowest common denominator first and then have their settings turned up for devices that have more processing power available. That is a statement that has been made many times by game developers. The more powerful the bottom of the barrel is, the better utilized the top end is. It is quite black and white and there is no PC elitism going on...just simple fact.
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I really cant be bothered getting involved in the same old PC vs Console "this is holding this back garbage" but it just gets annoying after a while.

Why do people on OCN, im talking mostly to "PC Elitists" keep moaning about consoles holding us back, yes the hardware is insanely outdated in PS3 and 360 but far out its not like they are holding us back from launching face first into a world of virtual reality, jesus. you guys really over dramatize this argument.

And in 2-3 years they will not be holding PC's back because there are still console games that look as good if not better than most PC games. Yes i know "imagine if they put the PC GPU's to use how good the graphisc would be" Fair enough yes, the graphics would be better, but how much better?

It will be IMPOSSIBLE and i repeat impossible, for them to create a system that can match PC GPU's and still make it AFFORDABLE to the public.

Most PC guys moan about the PC being the best but seriously, what are you actually moaning about? more AA??? smoother lines and better textures? Is it really going to blow you off your seat to see a few better textures? It's almost as if PC gamers are strictly about graphics, its not even like most of you support a genre of game that makes PC gaming more mature or advanced, most still just play generic crap like CoD and crysis 2 on PC. The games you would think are hardcore PC genre type games which require thinking and skill are barely mentioned on OCN.

I'm all for great graphics and PC but after a while it just starts sounding pathetic.

Play games, enjoy games on PC and consoles, quit moaning because the game industry wont change, its just the way the world is.

You're kidding right? Console has not been superior to PC for MANY years now. I'd say the last time they came even close to being superior was in the Playstation/N64 Era. You ask "how much better" All I've got to do is point you to games like Skyrim and Batman Arkham City. Heck, even Tomb Raider and Far Cry 3. The difference in quality is very noticeable.

I do understand the "Affordable" part that you are referring to. By the time I am done with my current build, it will be close to 3 Gs I have spent. But why should that hold back developers from developing for the PC, then porting them to console, instead of vice versa? If they did that, you would notice the difference in quality even MORE than before, and that's because the majority of games that are ported from console to PC barely tap the potential of even mid-high range cards like my 660 TIs, without the gaming community coming together and creating graphics Mods for them. For instance, there are many mods out there that allow Skyrim to take full advantage of the graphical prowess of even your high-end video cards, and the differences between those, AND the base are absolutely beautiful. It can be made to look like a "next-gen" game now. Far Cry 3, or even the Crysis games are other perfect examples of games where the PC version simply outshines Just watch these comparison videos, which should be proof enough of PC's superior quality, and why they should dev for PC, then dumb down for console, IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a3eilZRlyk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT54QWvAOgQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWptoAvnpOE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=r9RnpG5WMXk
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He's saying it sounds like most pc gamers care more about graphics then about actually playing the game itself and just enjoying the game, not just how it looks lol.
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