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Does anyone have any experience with this stuff? I'm a nervous nelly and want to start doubling up on safety.

http://www.xoxide.com/primoice-nonconductive-fluid-clear.html

Currently I am using Koolance performance coolant. Do you think I will see any differences in performance? IE: do you think I should expect a couple of degrees higher on my load temps?
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All non-conductive coolants become conductive after a little while, especially when in almost constant contact with metals like copper.

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Not worth the time and money to switch over. You will see almost no change in performance based on the change in coolant.
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Good to know that all liquids eventually become conductive. Thanks for the info!
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Good to know that all liquids eventually become conductive. Thanks for the info!


Well for a traditional liquid cooling loop, all liquids will eventually become conductive. There's always the option to use a dielectric engineering fluid for your loop, but that's around $150 OR $300 per gallon.

Look into DuPont Valrex or Novec 7000.

They are dielectric, you can literally submerge your computer in them tongue.gif
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I've used same Primochill coolant in the past & my experience tells me that there's really no such thing as non-conductive. My old Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2 got fried mainly out of carelessness thinking that a small spill won't cause any damage cuz it's non-conductive. Don't use the colored Primochill coolant or use a Primochill dye bomb cuz it will also stain.

I think distilled water is still the best.
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I've used same Primochill coolant in the past & my experience tells me that there's really no such thing as non-conductive. My old Sapphire Radeon HD 4870X2 got fried mainly out of carelessness thinking that a small spill won't cause any damage cuz it's non-conductive. Don't use the colored Primochill coolant or use a Primochill dye bomb cuz it will also stain.

I think distilled water is still the best.


Of course there is non conductive coolant, I mean people make submerged liquid cooling systems all the time. The question is are those dielectric fluids practical for loop cooling, and are they budget friendly!
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well, I know the submerged systems are in mineral oil. The viscosity of mineral oil is way too thick to run in your loop. I think the derelict fluids might be worth looking into, but probably only practical in machines with very expensive equipment. no sense in spending $150 or so protecting $150 or so motherboard. rolleyes.gif But that IS simply a matter of opinion.
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well, I know the submerged systems are in mineral oil. The viscosity of mineral oil is way too thick to run in your loop. I think the derelict fluids might be worth looking into, but probably only practical in machines with very expensive equipment. no sense in spending $150 or so protecting $150 or so motherboard. rolleyes.gif But that IS simply a matter of opinion.

The downside to mineral oil is that it kind of ruins everything you put in it. Unused PCI slots jam, cables stiffen... other stuff like that. Once you submerge a computer, there is no point trying to change anything about it later or resell it.
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The downside to mineral oil is that it kind of ruins everything you put in it. Unused PCI slots jam, cables stiffen... other stuff like that. Once you submerge a computer, there is no point trying to change anything about it later or resell it.

That's where the dielectric liquids come in biggrin.gif

Dielectric liquids are designed to not be viscous and when they evaporate to leave no residue. This effectively eliminates ALL the disadvantages of mineral oil, however; It also increases the pricetag by a LOT. biggrin.gif

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well, I know the submerged systems are in mineral oil. The viscosity of mineral oil is way too thick to run in your loop. I think the derelict fluids might be worth looking into, but probably only practical in machines with very expensive equipment. no sense in spending $150 or so protecting $150 or so motherboard. rolleyes.gif But that IS simply a matter of opinion.


While it is a matter of opinion most people, including me, would agree with you biggrin.gif The money it takes to make a liquid cooling system with Novec 7000, or DuPont's Valtrex is just way too high for it to be practical for most users. Unless there are extremely specific circumstances, there will almost always be a cheaper alternative for similar results.
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