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Poll Results: Your preference: Crucial M500 or Samsung 840 Non-Pro (TLC)?

 
  • 70% (12)
    Crucial M500
  • 29% (5)
    Samsung 840 Non-Pro (TLC)
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post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Just curious as to which of these SSDs you would pick. I ordered an M500 480Gb and it should be here tomorrow. I was initially looking to purchase the Samsung 840 500Gb for its reliability. Please don't talk about the 840 Pro, that is irrelevant in this case and quite expensive at the moment.
Edited by Adversity - 6/13/13 at 12:31pm
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Given the Samsung 840 500GB goes on sale for $280-300 while the Crucial M500 480GB typically sells for $400, I'd have to say the Samsung 840. Of course, if the choice were between Samsung 840 500GB and Crucial M500 960GB (roughly the same price/GB), I'd go with the M500 960GB.
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Good point but let's assume they are the same price. The Samsung 840 has not gone on any major sale in over 2 months. The last Dell sale came to around $306 after taxes + shipping.

I have seen the M500 for $310-350 on eBay and the 840 500gb is commonly found at $330-350...

I just want to get an opinion on what people would choose, all things equal, since the M500 is 20nm MLC and 840 is TLC. I know that it doesn't really matter since we're not going to use the drive for 10 years. Crucial seems to have earned a nice reputation and Samsung seems to be the most reputable.
post #4 of 7
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Originally Posted by Adversity View Post

Good point but let's assume they are the same price.

I just want to get an opinion on what people would choose, all things equal, since the M500 is 20nm MLC and 840 is TLC. I know that it doesn't really matter since we're not going to use the drive for 10 years. Crucial seems to have earned a nice reputation and Samsung seems to be the most reputable.

Assuming price is the same, Crucial M500 of course. I always over-provision by around 28% based on NAND amount (in this case, 512GiB) so they're effectively the same capacity to me (~400GiB).

The problem with TLC isn't just the shorter lifespan. It's a lot slower than MLC. I'm actually very impressed Samsung managed to make the 840 non-Pro as fast as it is. That said, I don't have particularly high hopes for the 840 in steady state when it's hammered which is why I would opt for the M500 (pricing being equal). I do actually have a Crucial M500 960GB (for a laptop upgrade). It's still inside its box at the moment, though.
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Originally Posted by rui-no-onna View Post

Assuming price is the same, Crucial M500 of course. I always over-provision by around 28% based on NAND amount (in this case, 512GiB) so they're effectively the same capacity to me (~400GiB).

The problem with TLC isn't just the shorter lifespan. It's a lot slower than MLC. I'm actually very impressed Samsung managed to make the 840 non-Pro as fast as it is. That said, I don't have particularly high hopes for the 840 in steady state when it's hammered which is why I would opt for the M500 (pricing being equal). I do actually have a Crucial M500 960GB (for a laptop upgrade). It's still inside its box at the moment, though.

Yeah, I actually bought it for my Macbook Pro and if you didn't know, Macs can't run TRIM without 3rd party software (which personally, I don't trust and, it caused many people failures).
I was thinking that running without trim on TLC would be worse than with MLC.

Just curious, why would you pick 960Gb for the laptop? I was thinking about that but I couldn't imagine how I would reach that much space without storing large movies and huge archives that normally go on my external storage anyways. I was running off of a 128Gb SSD + 750Gb HDD.

I'm thinking of getting a cheap 250Gb 840 for my desktop, when it goes on sale.
post #6 of 7
The Samsung 840 is the best bang for buck SSD. I have the 250GB Samsung 840 and it's seriously the best SSD out there. Boot-up speeds are extremely swift, and I load most of my applications from it.
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Just curious, why would you pick 960Gb for the laptop? I was thinking about that but I couldn't imagine how I would reach that much space without storing large movies and huge archives that normally go on my external storage anyways. I was running off of a 128Gb SSD + 750Gb HDD.

I've got a 750GB HDD on the laptop right now and it's only got 150GB free at the moment. Yes, it's filled with data (mostly comics in cbz/cbr and a couple of virtual machines). I've got 2.5" 2TB USB3 external HDDs but it's just not as convenient as having the storage built in. I've dropped a number of externals trying to do a balancing act when I just have the laptop sitting on my... well... lap. I've also dropped the laptop a couple of times and this rather than performance is actually the primary reason I want to switch the laptops to solid state.

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I'm thinking of getting a cheap 250Gb 840 for my desktop, when it goes on sale.

At the 240-256G capacity, I'd rather get an Intel 330/335 or SanDisk Extreme. Those tend to be on sale for the same price as the Samsung 840 250GB anyway. Reason I got the Samsung 840 500GB was because it had the best price/GB for the capacity at the time of purchase ($280). Next cheapest I saw at the time was the SanDisk Extreme 480GB for $350-360 so the Samsung 840 made for significant savings.
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