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Just enjoy your computer.

Unless you need, or enjoy every last bit of CPU, overclocking is a waste of money and time.

The reality is until there is a significant change in technology, CPU frequency is up against a wall.

Electronics basically behave instantly, for all intents and purposes as long as they operate slower then the speed of light.

The closer we operate to the speed of light, the smaller the device needs to be. This avoids things like phase shifting of signals traveling across the chip etc.

That is why Haswell is 22nm. (And why CPUs need to get smaller and smaller.)

The fact that a 4770K is claimed to be roughly 10-15% faster or stronger while using less power then a 3770K is actually very impressive.

There was a time when OC would get you something, but now it is always cheaper and more reliable to buy a more powerful or elaborate chip, rather then waste time and money trying to cool and stabilize a lesser chip.

I can appreciate this as a hobby, but don't get too upset when you realize that it is kinda pointless to OC when devices are already run close to the edges of their design parameters thesse days.
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Dude, I like your avatar... cheer up!
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Originally Posted by All3n View Post

Just enjoy your computer.

Unless you need, or enjoy every last bit of CPU, overclocking is a waste of money and time.

The reality is until there is a significant change in technology, CPU frequency is up against a wall.

Electronics basically behave instantly, for all intents and purposes as long as they operate slower then the speed of light.

The closer we operate to the speed of light, the smaller the device needs to be. This avoids things like phase shifting of signals traveling across the chip etc.

That is why Haswell is 22nm. (And why CPUs need to get smaller and smaller.)

The fact that a 4770K is claimed to be roughly 10-15% faster or stronger while using less power then a 3770K is actually very impressive.

There was a time when OC would get you something, but now it is always cheaper and more reliable to buy a more powerful or elaborate chip, rather then waste time and money trying to cool and stabilize a lesser chip.

I can appreciate this as a hobby, but don't get too upset when you realize that it is kinda pointless to OC when devices are already run close to the edges of their design parameters thesse days.

Reads post... looks at url... leaves confused ph34r2.gif
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post #24 of 85
While I see your point,(I get that a lot), it also says the pursuit of performance on the top left of this page.

Most good computer forums have the same amount of OCing fans. Lots of other good categories and information here, just like there are many more aspects to a nice computer then GHz.

A perk of reading these forums is when somebody ruins perfectly good CPU with a hammer or razor.
While I don't normally enjoy this misfortune of others, I can't help but give a bit of a chuckle when that happens. thumb.gif

Just by upgrading are we not in fact overclocking relative to our older hardware anyways?

It is not performance if it is not 100% stable in my opinion.

Why do CPUs always need to be overheated to be considered "performance". Laughable really.

K series chips are gimped on a few features as well.
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Im 4.3 1.25 volts 100 bclk phase control medium 1333 mhz divider, dont know why 1600 wont work, when that is rated speed. Can not go any higher than 1333 mhz ram 4.3 at 1.25 volts. getting somewhere at least
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cpu cache ratio needs to be set to 35 for me, anything above this bsods, at 35 cache ratio i'm stable 4.4. Also im curious why trc is not available for me to adjust on my mobo it was on my last one from the same company. How can you screw something up like that.
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post #27 of 85
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There was a time when OC would get you something, but now it is always cheaper and more reliable to buy a more powerful or elaborate chip, rather then waste time and money trying to cool and stabilize a lesser chip.

What if someone wants something faster than the fastest chip?
post #28 of 85
It's definitely possible you just have a bad CPU. I didn't think it was possible to get an Ivy Bridge chip that won't do over 4.6, yet that's what I got. Yours could be the same. Still, I would look through the guide again, as overclocking Haswell isn't as straightforward.
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post #29 of 85
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Yeah I have looked at it alot lately. I can get 4.4 and that is it anything beyond that is shot. 1.25 4.4. I at this point have two options. Increase memory speeds and see what happens. Or jsut return the damn thing until I get a 4.6 chip. 4.6 was my goal and guess I didn't reach that.
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Yeah I have looked at it alot lately. I can get 4.4 and that is it anything beyond that is shot. 1.25 4.4. I at this point have two options. Increase memory speeds and see what happens. Or jsut return the damn thing until I get a 4.6 chip. 4.6 was my goal and guess I didn't reach that.

Yesterday you were crying that you can't get more then 3.5 now you're at 4.4. As many of us said lastnight you have no idea what you're doing. Ask more questions and listen to us and you'll get higher
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