Originally Posted by BeerPowered
That's the beauty of Party Chat. No 12 year-olds allowed. You don't hear anyone outside your party unless you set it to.
When I was stationed in Japan much of the Xbox DLC was Region Locked so I bought a PS3. My unit played and it was ok but it sucked because they didn't have a party system. No bringing your friends from game to game, No cross game chat, no cross platform chat. Sony has had several years to improve the service, but never has. They didn't show off anything at E3 other then streaming your games which Xbox One can do too.
I haven't liked COD since MW2, but my friends and I do play a lot of FPS multiplayer on Xbox Live. Reach, Gears 1, BFBC2, and Borderlands 2 are awesome. We have a core group of 16 people who all know each other from work.
PS4 sucks for multiplayer and will remain so until PS4 releases and proves it.
I gladly pay M$ the $50 a year just for the party system and party chat(which works cross game)
One friend can play GTAV, while another plays COD:Ghost, and 5 of us play Destiny. Plus we can all whine to each other about life or discuss the Tebow trade, or how the spurs are going to lose.
Then the dude playing Ghost can dashboard and switch to Destiny and join our game since he is in our party.
DLC? Go play the same 6 Halo 4 maps over and over for months and you get back to me on how map packs suck. When you play 2-3 hours a night, 3-4 days a week those maps get old quick.
You made me get out of bed and re-turn on my PC to type this (I hate typing from my phone).
Basically that is the problem with all the modern FPS's. They are all clones of each other, led by groups of immature, drunk people and hackers. I guess the debate on Halo, CoD and BF is more about the games over the consoles in general (PC's get the same **** and we don't even need party chat: we can go all out on a private Mumble, Ventrilo or TS).
My interest in Halo and Gears is zilch, BFBC2 was a buggy, shafted version of BF2 (on the PC), Borderlands 2 was good (probably had the same features on the PC as on the X360) and with party stuff, I think the PC is the best since we can use dedicated private VoIP over a bloody party chat system (Ventrilo, TS or Mumble to list the top three).
I would never game a true FPS (Borderlands 2 aside since it doesn't count nor will Destiny nor Division) on a console. I really like the KB and Mouse for best and accurate input.
Aside from my rantings on lackluster FPS's and back to the topic. Cross-platform chat is something that one day would succeed. However cross-platform chat is pointless when the X360 can only chat with people with XBL accounts on the PC. Most of the people I know who games on the PC are "PC Master Gaming Race" and rarely use anything else than Steam to chat with anyone (more or less own a secondary console that is willing to also chat on XBL from their PC per se). I am sure it is great for someone who games on PC + X360 to use that feature to talk to X360 people, but for the most part, PC gamers stick talking to PC gamers and X360 with X360. It is a plus that XBL has it but it forces another hindering program to be installed on the PC and only be used for that. It gets annoying. Therefore I don't usually put cross-platform a priority until companies stop working selfishly by themselves and open up on an unified cross-platform chat program that works for all accounts (think Trillian).
As for cross-party, I am going to take your word for it as I have been PC Gaming (and forever continuing to be PC Gaming as my primary choice) since 2004. I sold my Xbox Original before Live got instated and I never got a console since. The only reason I am getting a PS4 is for the games I am tempted to try but has no plans on coming to PC (Destiny, The Division), therefore it is not my primary gaming platform. However, cross-party situations would be logically instated in PSN due to the fact it is not hard to implement and furthermore I think Sony was relying on in-game chat features to get the job done without being overly redundant. Either way, it looks like they are going to revamp it for the PS4.
Again, I will give the PS4 a chance here Sony is genuinely fixing the issues that made the PS3 look like an overprice piece of *bleep*. However at the same time, I just don't want consoles to be bullied by pointless DRM and Internet woes and seeing tradition die because it affected the PC very hard and it would suck to make anything related to gaming tied to being the consumer always wrong.
I am writing this from a die-hard PC gamer and I am sincere that what happened over the half a decade to PC will not repeat itself to the console market. That is all.
With that said in following what has happened to the PC, I will champion the status quo of classical console gaming. Hence I am getting the PS4. If you think the X1 is superior then go for it. I am not here to stop you. I just get annoyed that people here are accepting unfair DRM as reasons why the X1 is superior and with most of us PC gamers, I find that the dumbest thing because everyone one will know at one point or another you must of hated DRM and for good reasons.
The best way this whole thing will become a moot point is for developers to know that the quality of your games is the key point here. A good game will deserve us full price of payment. However bad games (like of the games being released) doesn't deserve full price because it is not memorable after one playthrough and the gameplay is stale.
It is not a surprise to me that Nintendo will always gets the last laugh cause the stuff they make are always memorable and never forgettable, no matter how crap their hardware lifecycle is.
I guess Nintendo would be the ultimate winner in the annals of video game history. Their magic never fades.