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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Not unless you want crazy behavior with the architecture and IVR murdering your temps. From what i've seen it's a very, very bad idea to do that on Haswell

ibt (iirc) was not recommended for use with SB. very little data yet for haswell, so to be safe, don't use it. if you do . . . not that long.
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Originally Posted by Fulvin View Post

The RAM bundled is only a single stick. Ideally, you to want two sticks for dual channel cpu. Also, I very much doubt you'd see any gains from 1866 over 1600.

The PSU you picked is utter overkill. You are looking at sub 300W max power draw with that system at stock. If it's SLI you're planning, then 600W would be ample. The GTX 770 is quite low power, as is the 4670k.
This is why I post my thinking aloud on the forums. I missed the fact that it's 1 stick. You're most likely right: From benchmarks even for Skyrim, not expecting 2+fps gains. But it was $1.20 more, that's a good deal nonetheless. If the ram was $10 more like its normal price I would have backed off. thumb.gif A bit of this is vanity I do wholly admit. wink.gif

I'm out of the loop with modern-day computers and the wattage required. I do plan to overclock my cpu and possibly even my GPU. I have no current plans to SLI but it may be a future option. The GPU may change though, that's like the least define part of my build so far because I have to wait 1-3 months to build it and if 8000s news starts rushing in then I'll hold off for that.

I read here that an oc'ed 770 gtx will run 300 watts
http://www.pcgamer.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-770-review/

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That's wattage (probably from the wall which inflates some) for the entire system.
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That's wattage (probably from the wall which inflates some) for the entire system.
Really?
So this rig will run with 300 watts?

I'm shocked! party.gif
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if this is your mobo and you want to be in the safe side, go with the qvl . . .

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87A/#support_QVL

especially for the ram . . .

http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1150/Z87-A/Z87-A_DRAM_QVL.pdf
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wow, your in the amd section?
    
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wow, your in the amd section?
No clue why this is in the AMD section. I guess the only probable reason is I made a mistake. Either way, mods please move this. thumb.gif

rdr09:
I was tired and couldn't find my mobo. it's actually this I was looking at:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130693

But that price is close to Asus' offering and I might go with their z87 Pro. The Asus A has inferior sound but their beefier cousin is $210

From Asus:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131975

Two mobos from Asus, same price, different sound sets. o.o
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that msi board is smexy. whatever mobo you pick always go for the qvl, especially on new platforms. you will be a guinea pig whether you like it or not. thank you.

the board will dictate the color scheme of pretty much every other components like fans, rams, etc. if you are into that. plan it and plan it well.

wish you well!

edit: i forgot . . .

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/Z87-G45-GAMING.html

and choose the right forum next time!
Edited by rdr09 - 6/14/13 at 5:47am
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Yes, I'm 98% sure MSI will support the memory and CPU. I have less confidence that the ram will arrive without a hitch, that it might be DOA. But hey, lifetime warranty. And DOA isn't that common. QVL has nothing to do with watts right, just making sure memory/cpu etc are supported?

I wish I was rich.
In my spare time I'd build multiple of the same system and just put sandy bridge/ivy/haswell, give out benchmarks for everything at OCs, blah blah blah. Be the #1 source for benches ever. biggrin.gif Hehe maybe if I win the Powerball.
Right now my plan is to keep my Sniper ram, keep my noctua, keep my Haswell. I expect the mobos to get cheaper as time pass as the vendors fight for sales, and reviews trickle in so I know which is famous and which is notorious. Besides, 8gb single channel won't be ideal. thumb.gif
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
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Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
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XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
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14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
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Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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did somebody just called may name as an adjective?! tongue.gif

rdr09 does a good job, ive nothing much to add.
msi became a nice brand IMO.. 10 years ago i had some msi stuff and
it was a pain ih the smex tongue.gif i was really surprised during the last years.

GL with yo build!
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