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Hi there, i'm goin to buy a new PC which i need to keep for several years maxing out video games Everything will be bought on amazon.com but not sure which CPU to get , since i want to play Metro 2033 maxed out on a monitor 3D 120 Hz 1920 x 1080 the bigger investment is goin to an SLI GTX 780.

So my options are toward to build systems3570k 3770K, 4770K, 3930K or even FX-8350. I'm not planning to OC too much, im not bothering doing it, of course OC is welcome but im most sided to not put on risk the processor doing OC but to keep it most years i can.

If i get 3570K people say is more than enough to play todays games, but tomorrow? i'm not sure if HT of 3770K would make a difference on future games
Then we have 4770K, its horrible temps and poor OC make me suspect about its quality, but as i dont want to bother OC too much, it's always better to get last generation of stuff, isnt?
I could instead buy a 3930K, it's hexa core maybe are true future proof since games will be asking for more cores trough the time and i can add until 64 Gb ram i think, but since is pretty expensive maybe i couldnt buy the second GTX 780 but wait and save money until next year and get the second GTX 780 then when prices are lower?
Finally it is the FX-8350 of AMD it's perfomance and price is quite similar to 3570K but its 8 Cores could make it time proof also.

Beside, All core I7 and I5 has a very extend catologe of Motherboards of many prices and qualitys, but for 3930K and FX-8350 there are not many motherboards, so their catologe is not so extend.

I'd like to know your opinion!
Edited by Sujeto 1 - 6/14/13 at 2:48pm
post #2 of 19
I got a 4670k i5 - will get me through the next 5 years - i may make a GPU upgrade in between as well as a new SSD but gaming does not need an i7. There are plenty of people still using core 2 quads and have no complaints. The i5 4670k will take you pretty far in regards to gaming.
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all I will throw in is that by the sounds of it you should be looking at an 8MB L3 chip, ivy/haswell. afaik hexacore is unlikely to net performance gains in any game, clock for clock, with a quad on the same socket. no gaming benefit to lga 2011. no need for 64 GB of RAM excluding ridiculous simulators or something like that.

just get the best quad you can, OC it lightly, enjoy. (you can overclock a chip without really affecting its lifespan, afaik, only heavier overclocking results in reduced lifespan_)
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+1 i5 3570k. =D does me just fine!
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Originally Posted by Jollyburner View Post

all I will throw in is that by the sounds of it you should be looking at an 8MB L3 chip, ivy/haswell. afaik hexacore is unlikely to net performance gains in any game, clock for clock, with a quad on the same socket. no gaming benefit to lga 2011. no need for 64 GB of RAM excluding ridiculous simulators or something like that.

just get the best quad you can, OC it lightly, enjoy. (you can overclock a chip without really affecting its lifespan, afaik, only heavier overclocking results in reduced lifespan_)

But why exist the intel Hexa core so? because Xeon is for servers right?
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I was in very similar situation, I just went with 4770k 4.5Ghz and one 780 gtx. All I know is this cpu really sped up my 780. Very happy with it.
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hexacore has several applications, the most common I know of are video encoding and running virtual machines. basically it only benefits people doing pure CPU crunching, and even then, only if whatever they are doing is coded to use all available threads. same reason hyperthreading doesn't do anything for most applications.

when games are correctly coded for hyperthreading on 4 cores (8 threads) then it will become a performance benefit to have hexacore so that any other background stuff can run on the other 2 cores, etc. basically in the foreseeable future its unlikely many games will see a performance gain from having more cores available. that said, I don't know if any do, or if yours do. for all I know metro is happy to use the 6 cores, so just do your research is all im saying.

but most likely, no performance benefit in gaming for 6 cores. if any its tiny, and u pay ALOT for it.
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Originally Posted by Dmitriy View Post

I was in very similar situation, I just went with 4770k 4.5Ghz and one 780 gtx. All I know is this cpu really sped up my 780. Very happy with it.

this is basically the crux of the situation,

99% of games are starved for GPU/gpu vram, not CPU

so

as long as your chip keeps up well with your graphics card that is all you need for gaming performance, and you should spend money on gcards and monitors if you like high-end graphics games.
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Get a CPU with HT. There's already performance benefits with BF3 and Crysis 3 and I'd imagine that many next gen games will start to use over 4 cores. To give you example, I use 120Hz screen and play BF3 with mostly low settings to get almost constant 120fps. I was pretty CPU limited in some maps, especially with 64-players. I upgraded from 2500K to 2600K for cheap; +10 minimum fps in Gulf Of Oman map (the most CPU hungry map in the game) thumb.gif

In best case scenario HT gives 30% more performance, it isn't as good as real core but still helps significantly sometimes. Since you are buying from Amazon there's not a lot of price difference between 3770K and 4770K, might as well go with newest tech. 4770K sucks if you want very high overclocks but 4,2-4,6 GHz is pretty easy to get even with air. Overclocked i7 Haswell is plenty for 780 SLI.

A lot of people will say that HT doesn't make difference in any game, my experience and some reviews say otherwise. It's your choice but I would forget i5 models since you want to use this computer for several years. Blast from the past: when Q6600, the first affordable quad core, was released people said that it's waste for gaming. I bought it anyway. Then GTA IV and BF BC2 came. Even highly overclocked dual cores really struggled with those games. I chose wisely and didn't have performance problems.
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There is no way of telling right now. With the launch of the new consoles, game companies will more than likely start using totally new graphics engines. These engines could be geared for multi core CPUs or Multi threaded CPUs.

There are even some games out right now that have a slight favoritism for the 8350 and other games favor the i7 over the i5.

Right now, there is little reason to get anything more than an i5, but with new graphics engines, higher resolution screens, the possibility of completely new hardware (new sata inferface or something like that), and the general uncertainty of the industry, there is no way a PC can officially last 2 years let alone 5.

The smartest option is try to build the best bang for buck PC now and build it so that it can max out your games currently, and then be prepared to build a new one later on down the road.
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