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Lol wow i just posted about this on another thread. The reason were all dissapointed with the Xbox One is because they're really trying to appeal more to casual gamers this time around AKA the market Nintendo has previously saturated. Instead of competing against Sony for hardcore gamers there is probably more money to be made by splitting the target market between hardcore gamers and casual gamers. If Xbox gets only a third of both markets then they profit more as opposed to just going full on against Sony for the 1337 market. The Xbox One is a hybrid between PS4 and the Wii more or less thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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I've been keeping that in mind, like i said this is a risky move for MS. They will probably offer a sort of discount, I've heard that they will offer the Xbox one at a heavily discounted price if people subscribe to Xbox live gold in a multi year contract. Very similar to how smart phones are sold at such high discounts when purchased with a 2 year contract and data plan. I assume microsft will take a similar approach. I could totally see Xbox One being offered for $199 if you sign up for Xbox live gold on a three year contract. After all you kind of need xbox live to use it anyway, so why not go gold?

The Wii launched at $250 in the US. That's insane! I had always thought it was $300. I don't think casual gamers will opt for the X1 due to the price. And like you said the the casual game market has already been saturated. Also, X1 doesn't have a gimmick that will draw casuals. Well the 360 Kinect was a gimmick that tried to draw the casual crowd but those people have already seen through it a.la Wii and the best selling game of all time Wii Sports. Although Nintendo has their fair share of hardcore gamers, most of us would look at Nintendo as a casual platform. But the Wii U isn't doing so hot in the casual market.

When I think casual gamers, I think of single player experience, the occasional party game, the type of people who isn't up to date with gaming and you're the friend always telling them to play this or that. I don't look at casuals as the online multiplayer type either. They are they type of people that like plug and play. So I'm wondering how well the X1 will do in the casual market.
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Originally Posted by -Apocalypse- View Post

I'd have to go back and look, but I thought Project Gotham and Perfect Dark Zero were their aces?

They were, but barely anyone I know got a 360 for those..It had a really weak launch lineup and was saved by the fact the PS3 did too and by the time the PS3 was out, you could get a 360 with a bunch of awesome games for the same price, launch titles don't matter nearly as much as people say they do.
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I believe we'll have to agree to disagree here. People bought MW3 after raging that it was the same game as MW2.

Yeah, that's probably for the best. I'm thinking along the lines of a lot of people got burnt by the SC DRM, and those people would be more cautious...Plus, the potential privacy issues are a lot bigger than Activision milking a franchise to most people.
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No, probably not. But they're still not in the policy of committing to things that have a chance of not happening.

Definitely, I just think it was stupid to require it in the first place.
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whistle.gif I meant to say that M$ is going for the far more ambitious option, trying to juggle so many markets.

Jack of all trades, master of none.
I think they'll have the CoD market in the bag, but not do too well in other markets personally...They're priced way too high for the casual market (The Wii was like lightning, it won't happen in the exact same way again..and a lot of people got it because it was a cheap option for a fitness machine with Wii Fit) and a lot of gamers are pissed off with the whole Kinect, DRM, etc things.
We'll have to wait and see though, we can go back and forth on this until it comes out (And afterwards) but the fact is no-one knows how well it'll do until then.
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In today's world, commercials don't need to be informative to be effective. Sad but true.

True, but there's a point where even your typical sheeple thinks it's a bit stupid. (For example, I know at least one person who had no idea the Surface was even a tablet until they saw it in store)
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Even live action FPS stuff can get away with a 4-5s buffer. You do all the heavy lifting on the cloud, and then all your console does is choose which path is taken. Fighting games are about the only games that couldn't use any buffer, and those aren't usually big enough to push the hardware, especially not the strength that the PS4/One have.

Fair enough, I'm going to have to take your word for it as I haven't really programmed any complex game AI. redface.gif
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