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GTX 650 TI Boost 2GB vs XFX Radeon 7850 Core Edition 1GB

Poll Results: Which graphics card would you suggest?

 
  • 90% (10)
    EVGA GTX 650 ti Boost 2GB
  • 9% (1)
    XFX Radeon HD 7850 1gb
  • 0% (0)
    Other (please specify in comments)
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post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
A friend of mine has been wanting a gaming pc for a while... Coming from a Mac there aren't many games he's familiar with at the moment, but I'm sure he's on the way to picking it up wink.gif

Anyway, his budget was initially $800, but he is flexible to maybe +/-$200 as long as the parts don't have to be purchased all in one go (over the period of a month). We're about to send in the order for the Mobo and the PSU since the deals seem too good to pass on; however, I did want to check if this rig is good enough.

Please note I realize that there might be a GPU bottleneck, but he wants to futureproof it for say -- 6 years? And this was the best build I could think of. If he feels the need to, he can add in another GTX 650 ti boost and another set of 2x8gb ram to improve performance over the next few years.


I also realize that DDR4 is coming soon and that even the newer Intel socket motherboards won't be -- in technicality -- "futureproof." I'm still using DDR2 ram and I'm fine. Am looking to build my own rig in the coming months.

What do you think of the parts listed below? Anything look out of place/incompatible, or even just plain bad?

Insight would definitely be appreciated! He plans on adding a 7200 hdd later on ~ 3-4 months in.


I would rather spend less than $200 before tax on a graphics card since there's a budget. I'm looking more towards having a functional pc over the years instead of an extremely powerful gaming computer. It should manage well in modern games, and with the addition of a second card in a few years, gaming should still be pretty awesome on this thing...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($282.48 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($135.36 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($111.29 @ NCIX)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 650 Ti Boost 2GB Video Card ($209.03 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN781ND 802.11b/g/n PCI Wi-Fi Adapter ($21.45 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($112.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($101.68 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($19.19 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1133.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-14 12:32 EDT-0400)


Are there any other deals I should be made aware of that could enhance this build?

Specifically with regards to the GPU, I've been suggested the following alternative (prices here are before 13% tax):
XFX Radeon HD 7850 Core Edition 1gb ($145 @ NCIX)


From what I understand the 7850 2gb blows the 650 ti boost 2gb out in terms of performance. I am however lost with regards to the specific card I've linked. It's only 1gb, and I feel that a drop in performance in free roam/open world environments like Skyrim and PlanetSide 2 is inevitable if I go with the 7850 1gb.

What do you guys think? Would you suggest something else?

I'm actually going to buy the card last as the gtx 650 ti boost 2gb may find itself in some retailer's promotional list. I also don't need the card right away if using integrated graphics for a little while would help me save in the long term


Keep in mind I'd like to leave a little wiggle room for a potential second card and future upgrades!





Insight would be very much appreciated =]



Thanks plenty =]!
post #2 of 8
Not the XFX HD 7850 1GB

Definately the GTX 650ti boost with 2 GB.

But for a little more, I would get this one:


MSI R7850 OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI, HDMI, Dual DP

$209.99
Instant Savings($20.00)
Sale Ends: Jun 30, 2013 23:59 MDT
Only $189.99



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post #3 of 8
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Not the XFX HD 7850 1GB

Definately the GTX 650ti boost with 2 GB.

But for a little more, I would get this one:


MSI R7850 OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB PCI-E w/ DVI, HDMI, Dual DP

$209.99
Instant Savings($20.00)
Sale Ends: Jun 30, 2013 23:59 MDT
Only $189.99




I appreciate your reply. That model has now been added to my (VERY) short list =]. Looks pretty good. Seem to have overlooked that :O. If the GTX 650 ti Boost 2gb doesn't drp by the 25th, I'll pull the trigger on the MSI R7850 =]

Thanks again!!
post #4 of 8
Thread Starter 
And just incase anyone's wondering...

TigerDirect (Canada) has just lowerd their prices down to $189.97 with an additional $20 rebate that nets the price at $167.97.

VERY tempting! Back in late April/early May however, the GPU dipped just below $100! Can it happen again? Yea. Likely? Nope.

I'll keep my eyes out on other variations of this card =]

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7874668&SRCCODE=LSCAN&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=8BacdVP0GFs-7_aqOriWDxKgJvos5YCvKw
post #5 of 8
I found some sub-$200 Canadian deals for GTX 660 2GB models that might be of interest:

EVGA's 02G-P4-2662-KR ($184.99 AR $15)
ASUS' GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 ($186.74 AR $20)
Gigabyte's GV-N660OC-2GD ($189.99 AR $20)
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post #6 of 8
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Originally Posted by svenge View Post

I found some sub-$200 Canadian deals for GTX 660 2GB models that might be of interest:

EVGA's 02G-P4-2662-KR ($184.99 AR $15)
ASUS' GTX660-DC2O-2GD5 ($186.74 AR $20)
Gigabyte's GV-N660OC-2GD ($189.99 AR $20)

Awesome find! EVGA is on the top of my "favorite companies to deal with" list. I usually don't go for Radeon graphics, but I think this might be an exception. At this price point, the 7850 2gb appears to destroy the GTX 650 ti Boost 2gb.
Moreover, the 7870 performs about 5-10% better than the 660. This is getting harder to choose, but I think I'll settle for the cheapest solution.

1. Since the 650 TI Boost 2gb borrows specs (except for shader clocks) from the 660, it won't really make a difference which I buy. Personally, the difference would be negligible.
2. Since the 7850 2gb beats out the 650 ti booster 2gb in performance, it should be neck-in-neck to the 660. I haven't really read up on the 660 yet as I thought it would be just plain out of my budget, but I'll give it a go.

I think settling for the card that's closest to the $150 mark would make the most sense. And the only three cards I'm actually currently considering are the GTX 650 ti boost 2GB, the GTX 660 2gb and finally the Radeon 7850 2gb.

*edit* Quick research netted me the answer I was looking for... It just plain doesn't matter at this point. the gtx 650 ti boost 2 should be on the bottom, but between the 660 and the 7850, it doesn't matter. From what I've read, a 7850 would destroy a 660 when both are overclocked. I get it depends on the individual card you have, but in terms of average, the 7850 seems to be a better buy, even though the 660 would cost me $15 more.

Of course, I'll have to take in brand image, customer support, track record, etc. into account while making my decision, but I'll just play the waiting game. Worst comes to worse and I hold on too long (after July 1st), I know I'll have the GTX 660 2GB to fall back on =]



Oh man.. When I get around to building my own rig... Things are changing rapidly.

Thanks!!
Edited by Wolfdale7 - 6/14/13 at 10:29pm
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HD 7850 2GB = 256bit memory bus
GTX 660 = 192bit memory bus
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Oh yea, ^ and this.

This was a very interesting read. Albeit it compared the 1gb variant of the HD 7850 with the GTX 660 2gb and GTX 650 ti boost 2gb, it gave me a general overview of what to expect from each of the cards.

So I stand behind my previous decision as now it's reinforced. I'd leave the GTX 650 Boost Ti 2gb for last and, if possible, shoot for a GTX 660 or HD 7850 depending on price =]. Thanks again guys!

Now since I haven't really dealt with Radeon cards, which company would be best to go with? Generally with nVIDIA I stick with EVGA, but price does sometimes gear me to others. Anything specific I should look for? How's MSI?

*Edit* Correct me if I'm wrong, but the general consensus is: Sapphire, then MSI, then Gigabyte. Hmm. I think I'll wait till the last few days of the 7850 sale before I finally buy it =] Thanks everyone!
Edited by Wolfdale7 - 6/14/13 at 10:57pm
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