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That Sandisk drive is mainly for use as cache space as it would be a very tight fit for a full Win7/8 install. That being said, it should still be a nice performance boost for $40. For an OS drive, you would really need at least a 60 GB drive, but then that doubles the cost of the 32 GB drive. Overall, this looks like a very nice build for the cost. The Lian-Li case is very nice, but kind of on the expensive side for a micro ATX mini tower. You could definitely shave off a bit of cost by going with something like the Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower. I have a Rosewill mid-tower and its definitely a nice, easy to work with case.
I planned on loading linux onto it and running off that which I know is much easier on the resources. I really am hoping the 32gb sandisk holds up well as I would like and SSD in this build. I know the Lian-Li is way overkill, but this is going to be sitting with some very nice HT equipment (denon receiver, klipsch speakers) and I don't mind spending a bit more now so that it looks like a quality housing unit. Its a problem I have, I like my stuff to look nice biggrin.gif though I did consider the Rosewill case as it is a clean looking case, but I have always wanted to work with a Li and hear the quality is unmatched.
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I have just about the same build for my htpc only it's a G530 celeron with 4 gigs of ram and a m4 ssd. Crushes XBMC and 1080p bluray rips. Perfect setup for a htpc around that price imho. Def go intel/igpu over an AMD APU. The lower power consumption is worth it, they are cheaper and preform equally.
I did like the lower TDP on them, but from what I see the APUs outperform the intel chips by quite a lot in the graphics department. Now how important that is to stream 7.1 and 1080p I don't know, but the benchmark wise everything I read says APU is the way to go

if I did intel, it would probably be this one

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2020 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($61.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($59.91 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian-Li PC-A04B MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $479.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 15:00 EDT-0400)

but I can do the APU build for a bit cheaper

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A4-5300 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A55M-DGS Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk ReadyCache 32GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($39.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 3TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Lian-Li PC-A04B MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 360W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $455.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-16 14:59 EDT-0400)
Edited by xRehab - 6/16/13 at 12:01pm
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If you can go to a microcenter you could get a Celeron G1610 for $34.99, or $42.99 on amazon. I personally wouldn't spend the extra $20 for the G2020.
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I did like the lower TDP on them, but from what I see the APUs outperform the intel chips by quite a lot in the graphics department. Now how important that is to stream 7.1 and 1080p I don't know, but the benchmark wise everything I read says APU is the way to go
I think the igpu only affects gaming performance. For htpc purposes, I don't think it matters.

I personally would go the intel route. I used this to help me choose which cpu to use.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/trinity-vs-ivy-bridge.html
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If you can go to a microcenter you could get a Celeron G1610 for $34.99, or $42.99 on amazon. I personally wouldn't spend the extra $20 for the G2020.
can't really find anything on the 1610 or 2020 chips that talk about their use streaming 1080p, just 3DMark11 scores which I am don't really know how it translates. I assume they can handle it no problem, but just want to be sure before cutting back on my CPU.
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post #15 of 19
For ~$500 you're in NUC territory, have you thought about that? You'd end up with a much smaller box that uses less power and has a better igpu (hd4000).
 
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For ~$500 you're in NUC territory, have you thought about that? You'd end up with a much smaller box that uses less power and has a better igpu (hd4000).
hm these look interesting. Don't know much about them tho, care to expand at all? Looks like i need to buy some cheap memory, and storage but there is no where for me to put and drives unless they are pcie. So did that meanI need a nas or external drive then?
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Theres msata for one drive. True theres not much room for more than that. So you could use an external drive or you could try to shoehorn a 2.5" drive into it.

Theres a thread on them in the xbmc forum if you want to get some ideas.

Basically the mobo & chip is a single-piece laptop unit with built-in psu. Hence the better built-in gpks.
 
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AMD APU > Celeron
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Theres msata for one drive. True theres not much room for more than that. So you could use an external drive or you could try to shoehorn a 2.5" drive into it.

Theres a thread on them in the xbmc forum if you want to get some ideas.

Basically the mobo & chip is a single-piece laptop unit with built-in psu. Hence the better built-in gpks.
Hmm, for the money a NUC with an external 3tb HDD might not be a bad investment since I do plan on getting a NAS up and running down the road. I think we have 3tb thunderbolt HDDs at work I can get so it'll give me the fastest transfer possible, but I think usb 3.0 should be fine right? I won't have the expandability I want in the future but this is by far the best bang for the buck and smallest form factor. Decisions decisions...
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