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No, not First Person Shooters.
If your monitor's refresh rate is, say, 60 Hz, does that mean you will only get 60 fps even if fraps says 120 fps?
Basically, does the monitor's refresh rate limit fps?
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Im no expert but yeah that's how I understood it. The monitor refresh limits the number of frames per second that are actually displayed.
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No.

120 FPS is still smoother than 60 FPS @ 60Hz.
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There are 2 significant advantages to gaming at 120fps on a 120Hz monitor:

1) A more 'connected feel' (mouse movements updated more frequently)
2) Lower levels of motion blur

Number 1 actually applies when running lower frame rates on a 120Hz monitor as well. But neither applies to running >60fps on a 60Hz monitor.

The game can feel like it's going faster, but you aren't getting the same experience as outputting 120 full frames per second as many of the frames are partial or non-existent. You can only ever get 60 frames complete frames in total on a 60Hz monitor.
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

There are 2 significant advantages to gaming at 120fps on a 120Hz monitor:

1) A more 'connected feel' (mouse movements updated more frequently)
2) Lower levels of motion blur

Number 1 actually applies when running lower frame rates on a 120Hz monitor as well. But neither applies to running >60fps on a 60Hz monitor.

The game can feel like it's going faster, but you aren't getting the same experience as outputting 120 full frames per second as many of the frames are partial or non-existent. You can only ever get 60 frames complete frames in total on a 60Hz monitor.

this.. and..... if you have a 60hz monitor it will only schow you max 60 fps.. your sys may run with 100+ fps
but as long the monitor caps it ´@60 you will only "see" 60...
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this.. and..... if you have a 60hz monitor it will only schow you max 60 fps.. your sys may run with 100+ fps
but as long the monitor caps it ´@60 you will only "see" 60...

But your mouse movement will still be smoother with the higher framerate (for example 100FPS) even at 60Hz when compared to 60FPS @ 60Hz.
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But your mouse movement will still be smoother with the higher framerate (for example 100FPS) even at 60Hz when compared to 60FPS @ 60Hz.

tell me how, if the monitor cannot "show" it? smile.gif

with higher framerates it will be definitely smoother but you need a device that can make it happen.
see.. you move the mouse 10 inches, lets say a machine does it with always the same speed instead of
your hand.

the monitor will output 60 frames per second.. so if you need ..lets say one second for these 10 inches,

you will get shown 30 frames in the first 5 inches and 30 frames in the second 5 inches, nothing can change that
unless you have a monitor that got a higher output.
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You have to account for engine interpolation and input. It isn't an entirely a matter of the display only outputting 16.7 millisecond transitions.
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tell me how, if the monitor cannot "show" it? smile.gif

with higher framerates it will be definitely smoother but you need a device that can make it happen.
see.. you move the mouse 10 inches, lets say a machine does it with always the same speed instead of
your hand.

the monitor will output 60 frames per second.. so if you need ..lets say one second for these 10 inches,

you will get shown 30 frames in the first 5 inches and 30 frames in the second 5 inches, nothing can change that
unless you have a monitor that got a higher output.

Have you ever played an FPS game? (Serious question)

Load up TF2 or CS:GO or Quake Live and do a test of 60FPS @ 60Hz and 120FPS @ 60Hz.

120FPS feels smoother even though the refresh rate is only 60Hz.
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Originally Posted by Remmib View Post

Have you ever played an FPS game? (Serious question)

Load up TF2 or CS:GO or Quake Live and do a test of 60FPS @ 60Hz and 120FPS @ 60Hz.

120FPS feels smoother even though the refresh rate is only 60Hz.

Yea.. i get you. Played alot of shooters. I´d also say this is right but maybe
we are both right. I believe what you mean comes due a flawless game
experience on a rig providing that much gpu+cpu power, that the best experience
even on 60hz monitors is guaranteed. Played Dod source for several years.
I also made the visual settings complete bad quali to stay near 100fps
all the time biggrin.gif

but i believe with a 120hz monitor it would have been even smoother.
i hope you understand what i mean.

Did not want to sound like i know it the best. :/
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