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What is military-grade hardware? I work with military hardware and have yet to see anything "military grade'. We use the same crap everybody else does.
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What is military-grade hardware? I work with military hardware and have yet to see anything "military grade'. We use the same crap everybody else does.

There's a reason why a phone market for construction workers exists. Because your fancy iPhone is going to die a horrific death if it gets run over by a bulldozer or comes in contact with water heavily contaminated with leftover concrete.
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And all electronics used in operational equipment (read: missiles, armor, artillery, gps, drones) are. I can see where you are coming from, with TSMC being in China and all, but do you really think we would have an enemy make the electronic components of our defense systems?

Well I'm not American and are not aware how things work exactly on your side of ocean, however, I remember there was some news item few months back about some key chips in missile guidance systems being built in China and there was supposed to be a back door in there which would let Chinese just to switch off US missiles in the case of serious conflict. Granted, I take everything I read with a grain of salt - far too many sensationalist, click-hungry "journalists" out there. As far as these requirements go I'm sure the winners of the bids are all American and that, but I really would not hold my breath over all their subcontractors being that as well who manufacture some of the key systems in these weapons platforms. The one with lowest bid that meet the specifications tends to win and made in US, if its actually the case is expensive, as opposed to the made in US tag where components are made in China and some guy just plugs the cards in and puts in the last 2 screws in to get that "made in US" tag.
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A while ago, a senior programmer was sacked after it was revealed that he contracted all of the work (including confidential software development) to cheaper programmers in Shanghai, and used the extra time to fool around on the internet or pick up other paying programming jobs.
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When I say military hardware what I mean is equipment used operationally by the military.

Berry Ammendment
Kissel Ammendment
Buy American
Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation Supplement

and many others that require defense equipment to be manufactured in the United States.

Obviously things like textiles, food, fasteners, etc. hold exemptions.

And all electronics used in operational equipment (read: missiles, armor, artillery, gps, drones) are. I can see where you are coming from, with TSMC being in China and all, but do you really think we would have an enemy make the electronic components of our defense systems?

TSMC is a Taiwanese company... so they don't consider themselves a part of mainland China but China does.

China DOES make networking equipment in the supply chain. In addition, vendors contract out to sub-contractors and the supply chain can get polluated. These are known issues that have occurred in the real-world already.

DoD's Annual Industrial Capabilities Report 2012
http://www.acq.osd.mil/mibp/docs/annual_ind_cap_rpt_to_congress-2012.pdf

Remaking American Security: Supply Chain Vulnerabilities & National Security Risks Across the U.S. Defense Industrial Base presented to Congress:
http://americanmanufacturing.org/files/RemakingAmericanSecurityMay2013.pdf
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TSMC is a Taiwanese company... so they don't consider themselves a part of mainland China but China does.

China DOES make networking equipment in the supply chain. In addition, vendors contract out to sub-contractors and the supply chain can get polluated. These are known issues that have occurred in the real-world already.

DoD's Annual Industrial Capabilities Report 2012
http://www.acq.osd.mil/mibp/docs/annual_ind_cap_rpt_to_congress-2012.pdf

Remaking American Security: Supply Chain Vulnerabilities & National Security Risks Across the U.S. Defense Industrial Base presented to Congress:
http://americanmanufacturing.org/files/RemakingAmericanSecurityMay2013.pdf

The UN doesn't recognize Taiwan as an independent state, therefore it is not an independent state, despite anyone's personal feelings. I'm a US native Chinese and Russian linguist. I'm not sure why you linked those two reports, neither of them mention core components of defense systems being produced in China. The second one mentions fasteners, which I'd already mentioned were produced in China, and semiconductors, because China has all the rare earth metal. Neither of those things are core components, and both are essentially raw materials. Every one of the laws and acts that I posted mention US defense items must be produced in America. Obviously some things fall through the cracks, and in the case of the company who contracted out and let china produce the guidance chips, the contract was lost and several folks were punished.
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MIL-STD-810G:

"It is important to note that this document does not impose design or test specifications. Rather, it describes the environmental tailoring process that results in realistic materiel designs and test methods based on materiel system performance requirements."

"Materiel acquisition program managers among whose responsibilities is ensuring materiel will function as required in intended operational environments."

So ahhh..... As long as MSI makes a motherboard out of "motherboard materials" and it works in its intended operational environment (computer case) its eligible for the MIL-STD-810G class qualification?
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Pretty much. Yeap.
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