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Greetings to OCN,

So I've had my PC for about 5 years now and it has done me justice, but now it's getting to the point where every game I play unless if it's an old game itself just lags me to all hell and my gameplay is suffering because of it. So in lite of this I've decided to OC my PC. My specs ( http://www.overclock.net/lists/display/view/id/5264563 ) I've been giving this a lot of thought over the past couple of weeks due to the fact that I know OC'ing shortens the life span of parts and since my PC isn't brand new it could expedite it's death, leaving my PCless since I currently don't have the money for an up to date build. So I'm hoping that someone can give me some advice on if I should OC my system or if I should just suck it up until I can get a new build. My cooling sucks, I have the default stock heatsink and cooling fan my CPU came with, and my case only has 2 fans.


How big of a risk would I be taking with my current setup?

How far could I OC my system safely?

What recommendations would any of you give before OC'ing?

Thanks!

EDIT: Sorry to those who have viewed my post and looked at my incomplete build, finished it with all my components as to give a better idea of what I'm working with here.

EDIT2: Looking to OC my CPU / GPU / RAM to overall increase my PC's performance.
Edited by GsNp - 6/15/13 at 3:40pm
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First, if you're going to do any sort of overclocking on your CPU I'd ditch the stock cooler. Look for a used air cooler like a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ that can be found for relatively cheap. Then just search on the forums for some of the overclocking guides. They'll tell you exactly what programs you'll need and what steps you should take. If you keep temps in check and don't go crazy you won't significantly shorten the lifespan of your stuff.

Make sure that you do things the old-fashioned way. Work through your bios for your CPU overclock and start small working your way up until you get a problem. Then back it down. Then test for stability using Prime 95, etc. Do the same for your GPU, using Afterburner or PrecisionX. You'll see the least amount of gains from memory, so I wouldn't really bother. I would, however, check my memory with Memtest86+ just to make sure its running smoothly and won't mess with any of your overclocking. Good luck!
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First, if you're going to do any sort of overclocking on your CPU I'd ditch the stock cooler. Look for a used air cooler like a Cooler Master Hyper 212+ that can be found for relatively cheap. Then just search on the forums for some of the overclocking guides. They'll tell you exactly what programs you'll need and what steps you should take. If you keep temps in check and don't go crazy you won't significantly shorten the lifespan of your stuff.

Make sure that you do things the old-fashioned way. Work through your bios for your CPU overclock and start small working your way up until you get a problem. Then back it down. Then test for stability using Prime 95, etc. Do the same for your GPU, using Afterburner or PrecisionX. You'll see the least amount of gains from memory, so I wouldn't really bother. I would, however, check my memory with Memtest86+ just to make sure its running smoothly and won't mess with any of your overclocking. Good luck!

Very much appreciated Bern, I'll definitely be going out tomorrow to get myself a Hyper 212+, I've read a lot of good reviews about them. Currently my system runs at 45-55C Core Temp Idle. Which obviously isn't ideal for OC'ing. I hope that the new cooling will help bring that down at least /2.

I read a thread on this forum about doing the OC manually produced worse results than using an Asus Software for Overclocking, not sure if it was an isolated incident for just that person or if it will hold true for me as well, but I guess once I actually get down to it I may try both ways to see which is more stable.

I'm in the process of redling Daemon Tools for the Memtest86+ iso, what exactly should I be looking for? I guess I'll know if it's self explanatory once I get it running.

Thanks again!
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You can try the overclocking software, but I think you're better off just overclocking manually. You get to know your system that way. No chip is exactly alike. With the software you may be stable, but you could be feeding your CPU more voltage than you need. Just work slowly and keep notes as you go. For the Memtest86+ just boot up and it will guide you through. I'd let it run overnight. It'll let you know if it has any errors.
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So I went out today and purchased a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo after spending about 4 hours cleaning all the dust out of my PC, removing all peripherals and CPU / GPU, even took off my GFX card's shroud and cleaned it out of dust as well. Upon successfully installing the new heatsink and fan which was a grueling process having to unscrew the motherboard from the risers and attach the back plate my god what a nightmare. But upon booting up my PC with everything connected after installing the new 212 Evo, I received all LED lights and fans on and spinning with no bios post, and then the PC would shut off, turn back on and continue to flash LED lights / spin ALL fans. I did some tinkering which has only made my problem worse as I've now proceeded to receive no computer response from pressing the power button with the PSU on. I also probably in-advisably took apart the PSU to clean all the dust out of it as well. No capacitors have fried from the looks of it and my first boot up made me feel like it was maybe the PSU not supplying enough wattage to then new fan, but the new fan only takes up 2.3Watts, so I disregarded that. I read that I might of been grounding my Mobo since i reinstalled the risers and that it could be the reason why so I removed most peripherals and re-did the risers again to which I then received the dead start.

Overall not how I expected my attempted upgrade to go but I have to wait until 2moro to contact ASUS for tech support, hoping anyone here could advise me as to what I might have done wrong or what I could do to fix this myself. Thanks!
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