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Hello everyone, While I can see turbo being only a awesome thing for someone who doesn't overclock - it is simply driving me nuts.


What I want
I want a max clock speed, and I want to be able to use that 24/7 - not when the moons align correctly. If I have to pick a lower overclock to get that, then ok thats fine.

Problem
My situation feels like it is heat related, as far as I can tell. In my ASRock z77 Pro4-m the turbo options are pretty limited, no options related to heat - is this the same for other brands?

Once two of my 3570K cores hit somewhere around 75-78c (167F) it drops out of turbo, instantly cooling down 10degrees.

The thing is, my (huge) aftermarket CPU cooler barely gets warm, its like I don't have a chance to get the heat out of the CPU. Fans at 50%, fans at 100% it makes no difference. It all happens so quickly.

Extra info
I would be more than comfortable with my CPU at 90C but it just doesn't seem to be an option. Its not really a point I feel like debating, But 75C feels extremely conservative. If 90C upsets you, please pretend I said 85c, or 80c biggrin.gif

My BIOS is extremely moody, on the few occasions that I have been able to switch Turbo off, then the option to set CPU multiplier/ratio simply vanishes - how else can I overclock my CPU then?! Why are the two linked? Can I not somehow set a non turbo multiplier/max ratio? My BCLK tops out at at 108, thats not a viable option? I feel like I am missing something.

I am not shooting for the stars here. My sweet spot for this CPU seems to be 4.4GHz, after it requires tons more voltage making the turbo heat situation much worse.
All of my testing in the past day has been done at 4.2GHz with a (negative) voltage offset of -0.010v, I simply cannot keep that speed constant frown.gif


Could any one advise? Am I being unreasonable? 4.2Ghz solid from a 3570K?

(For anyone not aware you can monitor your turbo situation using a Intel app called Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology Monitor 2.6 Core temp/CPUZ also show this info but the pretty graph is nice)
post #2 of 3
you can try the delid- but from what I understand, it's risky.
are you sure TIM is good? maybe it didn't have enough time to set properly before OC attempts... also make sure there are no new BIOS updates on that board.

this might help if you haven't seen it already- http://www.overclock.net/t/1254599/official-asrock-z77-discussion-owners-club
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Thanks for the reply Blue Dragon.

De-lidding is probably too risky for me, if it was "fool proof" then my next concern would be resale value. Especially since mine is such a "meh" overclocking CPU.

I did not use much thermal paste, since everything online suggested not to. I used around the size of a grain of rice. Before that I was always under the impression that you could use a decent amount (A large pea sized) and extra would simply be pushed away. I guess my next step may be to go back to my old method and see.

Edit: I guess its possibly my coolers included paste just sucks. I will buy some more before I pull it apart.

Thanks for the link also, I had seen it and while it mentions some turbo options they don't seem to help
Edited by Ized - 6/16/13 at 5:42am
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