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My buddy is going to be upgrading his system to a Micro ATX Haswell build, and he currently has a Thermaltake TP 750w and he has had it since his very first build which was like 6-7 years ago. Would it be wise to swap it out for a newer far more efficient PSU?

Now that I think about it he might have to upgrade PSU if he goes Haswell, due to the new C state low power stuff, and im not sure the TP 750w can do that stuff.
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post #2 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216 View Post

My buddy is going to be upgrading his system to a Micro ATX Haswell build, and he currently has a Thermaltake TP 750w and he has had it since his very first build which was like 6-7 years ago. Would it be wise to swap it out for a newer far more efficient PSU?

Now that I think about it he might have to upgrade PSU if he goes Haswell, due to the new C state low power stuff, and im not sure the TP 750w can do that stuff.

If he only has one video card 550 watts can do

And the PSU Haswell problem is only a problem if he uses sleep mode otherwise its not a problem
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post #3 of 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

If he only has one video card 550 watts can do

And the PSU Haswell problem is only a problem if he uses sleep mode otherwise its not a problem

He will be going to a 4770 (Non K since he doesn't need overclocking, or want too) and a GTX770. He owns his own lighting company for concerts at big amphitheaters, and use program called Capture Polar to do the designs, and it takes quite a bit of computing power for what he does, with all the lights and shadows, with the rendering as well.
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post #4 of 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by MxPhenom 216 View Post

He will be going to a 4770 (Non K since he doesn't need overclocking, or want too) and a GTX770. He owns his own lighting company for concerts at big amphitheaters, and use program called Capture Polar to do the designs, and it takes quite a bit of computing power for what he does, with all the lights and shadows, with the rendering as well.

550 watts is still more then enough for a system like that
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post #5 of 8
please buy him a new PSU!

its one thing for a PSU to go flonky in a desktop @ home or the office but during a focus, let alone a live event . . .
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post #6 of 8
6-7 year is a very long time for a PSU its almost ancient
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post #7 of 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shilka View Post

6-7 year is a very long time for a PSU its almost ancient

Yeah he definitely needs to replace it, he is also going to get a new case. He has one of those old NZXT Zero cases http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146029 and the bar to support the PSU is starting to sag too, and the PSU is at a slight angle now. If there wasn't screws it would fall I think.

Looking to have him get the Corsair 350D micro atx case and do a Micro ATX Haswell build.
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Qnix QN2710LED 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz Corsair K70 w/ Red Backlit and Cherry MX Browns Corsair HX850 Gen1 Silver Corsair Obsidian 750D 
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Samsung 830 128GB SSD  Corsair Neutron 240GB SSD Seagate Barracuda 2TB SATA 6gb/s 64mb cache (2x... EK Supremacy  
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Alphacool XT45 360 Radiator Alphacool UT60 240 Radiator MCP350 w/ EK reservior top 140 multi tube Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Qnix QN2710LED 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz Corsair K70 w/ Red Backlit and Cherry MX Browns Corsair HX850 Gen1 Silver Corsair Obsidian 750D 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Steelseries Rival 300 Corsair Mat Realtek ALC1150 w/ MSi Soundboost Hyper X Cloud Pro Headset 
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post #8 of 8
By the way, at a cheaper price than a i7-4770 you can get a Xeon E3-1230 V3 and use on many consumer 8-series chipset motherboards like the normal Haswell parts. It doesn't have the onboard graphics usable, but otherwise it's pretty much an i7 for cheaper.

400W is already plenty, by the way.
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