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raw as well as snappy and responsive
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Well 3060 is just an srom variation of the A2020 last I checked. Like the 3070 & 3080 was and so on... They all were just the Agilent 20DIP sensor in the end I guess.

The 3060 EC's were just plain awful. Same with their build quality. QC was mototech level at that point of their existence.

lol "heaton and spawns mouse" rolleyes.gif

As for Ikari Laser? DO NOT USE IT ON A CLOTH PAD. Period.

I do wonder though if it can do 1000hz with sweetlow's driver on win8/10 systems(I only have 7).

In my opinion CYONS2000 was marginally better then 1000 series. CYONS2001 was about all they could muster in terms in something resembling a "gaming sensor".
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Mototech level? Refer to the image above to know how I feel about that, too bad the CYONS2000 sensor is like impossible to find in any mouse besides that one R.A.T. which doesn't have it anymore as far as I know, and then that Saitek mouse.

Whatever happened to the CYONS anyway? Did Cypress just realize it wasn't worth pursuing the sensor market when Avago was so far ahead and own a market majority or something?
    
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I've wonder if making a list of the all mice with the CYONS is something that should be done. But it's like so niche. I don't like even like the damn thing really. It's just one of those "want to know more" type things for me.

Cypress stopped since there was no profit to be had. Avago throwing dumb lawsuits at them was irritating as well.
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I've wonder if making a list of the all mice with the CYONS is something that should be done. But it's like so niche. I don't like even like the damn thing really. It's just one of those "want to know more" type things for me.

Cypress stopped since there was no profit to be had. Avago throwing dumb lawsuits at them was irritating as well.

I always get interested in the weird niche sensors, I went as far as I could to find a VT5366 and even bought a Kinzu from South Korea for $60 just to try it, now I'm interested in the CYONS since I already used an older TwinEye and there's not much more niche stuff. I even went as far as reading the VT5366's datasheet and scouring the STM website for anymore info on the VT53xx sensors, sadly there's not much to see besides the data sheet and this http://investors.st.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=111941&p=irol-newsArticle_print&ID=856232
    
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Not saying this will ever happen due to LEDs lasting so long but, if I were to go about replacing an IR LED for a sensor, what wavelength(s) could I use? I've seen 850nm and 940nm and I've heard the 850nm wavelength emits slightly more humanly visible (red) light. Would it really make that much of a difference (sensor) performance-wise?
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Not saying this will ever happen due to LEDs lasting so long but, if I were to go about replacing an IR LED for a sensor, what wavelength(s) could I use? I've seen 850nm and 940nm and I've heard the 850nm wavelength emits slightly more humanly visible (red) light. Would it really make that much of a difference (sensor) performance-wise?

For example PMW3310:

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For example PMW3310:


Now, if I could just have one of those graphs for every sensor currently available and every future sensor that will ever be released, that would be great tongue.gif

Although, I think modern sensors will have integrated illumination as opposed to a standard 5mm LED :/
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You can find those graphs for some sensors by googling their datasheets. I would assume it's rather similar for all IR illumination based sensors.

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Although, I think modern sensors will have integrated illumination as opposed to a standard 5mm LED :/

Which is a good thing. More controlled outcome, less issues with tolerances, smaller footprint and lower weight (lol). Generally a smaller chance for the ODM manufacturers to mess things up.
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