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Sounds nice except it would just cook under or between my crossfire
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I want the Mushkin Scorpion first, then I can be happy
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Originally Posted by Kaltenbrunner View Post

Sounds nice except it would just cook under or between my crossfire

You do realize these slot in at the top of the motherboard (ATX size anyway) near the 8-pin?



That's the mSATA version, but the NGFF will be the same.
Edited by zinfinion - 6/17/13 at 4:21pm
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Does the sony pro 13 (13" ultrabook with a PCIE SSD) use this?
    
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Originally Posted by zinfinion View Post

You can find Samsung 840 Pro series mSATA drives (Samsung PM841) for sale from a few obscure vendors, but Samsung seems to be mainly focused only on system integrators with these. Presumably they will do the same with any NGFF offerings they might roll out. frown.gif
And either this or the new XP941 can be plugged into the right motherboards. The ASUS ROG lineup previously supported mSATA and the new VI editions support NGFF/M.2.

Thanks for the info. My post was not clearly written so I edited it to clarify. What I meant was something you could plug right into an existing motherboard's PCI slot. Even for newer boards/chipsets, will mSATA be a wide spread feature? I'm not not entirely sure, but I think the X99 chipset does not feature mSATA. It might be something MB OEMs add via a 3rd party controller (like w/ USB 3.0 or extra SATA 6GB/s ports), but I'm not a big fan of those. Technically my board is SATA 6GB/s capable, but the crappy Marvell controller latency is such that I'm better off using a native SATA 3GB/s port for my SSD.

Putting motherboard interface aside, the other big issue is pricing. Would enough people be willing to pay twice the cost of a same size SATA SSD such as the Samsung 840Pro? Frankly, I'd be surprised if the premium was that "low" - at least until manufacturing matured.
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Thanks for the info. My post was not clearly written so I edited it to clarify. What I meant was something you could plug right into an existing motherboard's PCI slot. Even for newer boards/chipsets, will mSATA be a wide spread feature?

Gotcha. For that you'll need something like an OCZ Revo drive. And mSATA is actually on the way out, that's what all this fuss about NGFF succeeding it is about.

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Putting motherboard interface aside, the other big issue is pricing. Would enough people be willing to pay twice the cost of a same size SATA SSD such as the Samsung 840Pro? Frankly, I'd be surprised if the premium was that "low" - at least until manufacturing matured.

The mSATA PM841 can actually be found for cheaper than the corresponding 840 Pro models. So the NGFF XP941 will hopefully not carry too much of a premium. Again though, they are useless unless you have a motherboard that supports them. redface.gif

$219 here: http://www.excaliberpc.com/624796/samsung-pm841-series-mzmtd256hagm-00000-msata.html vs $242 here: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7PD256BW/dp/B009NB8WRU
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I'd never heard of SATA Express, thanks for the link. No details on performance though, I wonder whether it will be SATA 6GB or even faster.
First off SATA Express is just a fancy name for SATA revision 3.2
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Originally Posted by sata-io.org 
The technology will provide a cost-effective means to increase device interface speeds to 8Gb/s and 16Gb/s.

Which will be fast enough to accommodate much faster SSD's for a little while.
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SATA revision 1.0 - 1.5 Gbit/s - 150 MB/s
SATA revision 2.0 - 3 Gbit/s - 300 MB/s
SATA revision 3.0 - 6 Gbit/s - 600 MB/s

SATA revision 3.2 - 8 Gbit/s - 800 MB/s
SATA revision 3.2 - 16 Gbit/s - 1600 MB/s

Tho it still uses PCI Express to achieve them speeds, Samsung did the obvious thing and just made cards that run directly on the PCI Express bus. I am with Samsung on this one, let the era of PCIe SSD's come to the consumer market. They've been around on the server market for a while now, just far from affordable.
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Now just give me an adapter from M.2/NGFF to PCIE and I'm there thumb.gif
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[VR-Zone] Samsung begins mass production of first PCIe SSD FOR ULTRABOOKS, up to 2.5x times faster than SATA SSDs
Fixed a damn misleading title. OP you better change it.
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This is cool.

What about RAMdisks? Will that ever be a standard thing? I know you can set one up right now, but they erase every time you reset or shut down. Why aren't companies working on making these? Aren't they even faster than these PCIE SSDS?
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