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Originally Posted by Opcode View Post

First off SATA Express is just a fancy name for SATA revision 3.2
Which will be fast enough to accommodate much faster SSD's for a little while.
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SATA revision 1.0 - 1.5 Gbit/s - 150 MB/s
SATA revision 2.0 - 3 Gbit/s - 300 MB/s
SATA revision 3.0 - 6 Gbit/s - 600 MB/s

SATA revision 3.2 - 8 Gbit/s - 800 MB/s
SATA revision 3.2 - 16 Gbit/s - 1600 MB/s

Tho it still uses PCI Express to achieve them speeds, Samsung did the obvious thing and just made cards that run directly on the PCI Express bus. I am with Samsung on this one, let the era of PCIe SSD's come to the consumer market. They've been around on the server market for a while now, just far from affordable.
SATA Express is NOT a fancy name for SATA version 3.2... they fundamentally change how SATA works.

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This is cool.

What about RAMdisks? Will that ever be a standard thing? I know you can set one up right now, but they erase every time you reset or shut down. Why aren't companies working on making these? Aren't they even faster than these PCIE SSDS?
RAMDisks will never become a standard thing.... software that need the performance of memory should themselves load data into memory.

Memcache and Hadoop are basically distributed RAMDisks already.

i.e. Databases can load tables into memory.
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This is cool.

What about RAMdisks? Will that ever be a standard thing? I know you can set one up right now, but they erase every time you reset or shut down. Why aren't companies working on making these? Aren't they even faster than these PCIE SSDS?
Because DRAM flushes every time it loses power, it's just how system memory works. Thus why hard drives, and SSD's exist. Tho I don't know why anyone would want anything faster than what SSD's offer at home. Especially with current motherboards supporting well over 2400 MB/s read and writes.
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Fixed a damn misleading title. OP you better change it.

They work just fine in desktop motherboards that have a NGFF slot.
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The writer of that article was most likely drunk at the time.

On a side note, I bet those "sticks" cost about 10 bucks to manufacture yet the 512GB version will cost a fortune.
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The writer of that article was most likely drunk at the time.

On a side note, I bet those "sticks" cost about 10 bucks to manufacture yet the 512GB version will cost a fortune.

To be fair it's a spec that has two names, M.2 or NGFF, and can either use SATA or PCIe, but does not use the typical connectors or form factors associated with either of those. So the fact that so many people in this thread got confused isn't really that surprising.

I can't speak to M.2/NGFF costs, but mSATA costs are on par or lower than their same capacity 2.5" brethren. Hopefully M.2/NGFF continues this trend.
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Ohh, you didn't know how this was supposed to be implemented... That explains you comment about the look of the thing at least. Yes, this is a mPCI-E card, like I said in the post you quoted. I thought you were actually talking about the visual appeal of a product that was obviously designed for anything but esthetics, that would have been very shallow don't you agree?

Although ignorance is never an excuse.

I think you're confused and mistaken me for someone that cares about what you think.
    
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Damn. And I thought we might be nearing the era where I'd stop filling up PCIe slots, so I could move to a smaller form factor system.

I was wrong thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
   
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To be fair it's a spec that has two names, M.2 or NGFF, and can either use SATA or PCIe, but does not use the typical connectors or form factors associated with either of those. So the fact that so many people in this thread got confused isn't really that surprising.

I can't speak to M.2/NGFF costs, but mSATA costs are on par or lower than their same capacity 2.5" brethren. Hopefully M.2/NGFF continues this trend.

Not confused, it was just the title of the thread which is somewhat misleading.
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Fixed a damn misleading title. OP you better change it.

"Better change it" or what exactly will happen? rolleyes.gif Before you order me to fix the "damn" title, you should understand that VR-Zone REVISED THE ARTICLE'S TITLE AFTER I CREATED THE POST. The original thread title was AN EXACT COPY OF THE SOURCE ORIGINAL TITLE. You might realize that if you took 30 seconds to note the first two comments for the source article. In fact, prior your post I created an update to the OP noting that I agreed with comments that the source title was wrong, and I just copied what was there. In short "don't blame the messenger." In addition, at that time, I posted a link to Samsung's press release as well for better clarity.

Rather than "complain" (to put it nicely) to me about a "misleading" title created someone else, simply mentioning that the post title didn't match the article's would have been more helpful and certainly more appreciated. I'm sure you will be ecstatic to see that I've changed the thread title to match the article's NEW title, along with revising the OP update to reflect said change. This was my first "news" post, and TBH, given all the misdirected "outrage" over a title that I simply copied (which again, AFAIK is correct OCN procedure for posting "news"), I regret doing so. Lesson learned.
Edited by goesto11 - 6/18/13 at 3:31am
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"Better change it" or what exactly will happen? rolleyes.gif Before you order me to fix the "damn" title, you should understand that VR-Zone REVISED THE ARTICLE'S TITLE AFTER I CREATED THE POST. The original thread title was AN EXACT COPY OF THE SOURCE ORIGINAL TITLE. You might realize that if you took 30 seconds to note the first two comments for the source article. In fact, prior your post I created an update to the OP noting that I agreed with comments that the source title was wrong, and I just copied what was there. In short "don't blame the messenger." In addition, at that time, I posted a link to Samsung's press release as well for better clarity.

Rather than "complain" (to put it nicely) to me about a "misleading" title created someone else, simply mentioning that the post title didn't match the article's would have been more helpful and certainly more appreciated. I'm sure you will be ecstatic to see that I've changed the thread title to match the article's NEW title, along with revising the OP update to reflect said change. This was my first "news" post, and TBH, given all the misdirected "outrage" over a title that I simply copied (which again, AFAIK is correct OCN procedure for posting "news"), I regret doing so. Lesson learned.

Whoa, easy tiger! I really don't think things are personally directed at you smile.gif
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