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Iam confident Amd will make a SINGLE gpu that will beat a Titan and 690 ( its just a matter of time )

keep hoping then.
post #22 of 26
I don't know but I am sticking with AMD for the foreseeable future because Nvidia drivers still have input lag. I just tried out a new GTX 770 recently but had to return it because of noticeable input lag in FPS games.
post #23 of 26
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Amd will hace the fastest single & dual gpus! Just a matter of time kid wait & see
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1st of all iam not your son, 2nd you dont know who your speaking to so just assuming someone is younger then you to call them your son is just plain stupid! ....And yes i believe amd will once again have the fastest video cards on the market, if that offends you then oh well! ...... Everyobe here is intitled to their opinion just beacuse i dont agree with your opinion dosent make me wrong. Ok?
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Well, first of all, the 680 is not faster than the 7970. It's generally accepted that the 7970 is a better performer, particularly when overclocked, but for the sake of avoiding that argument we can, at the very least, say they're equal.
People said AMD was far ahead of nV when the 5870 came out, and then said nV was far ahead of AMD with the release of the 580, and again, AMD ahead of nV with the 7970. "Immensely ahead," isn't what I'd say about nV, just because of Titan. nV has always made big dies and AMD has never shown interest in competing for that market, until 7xxx. Only now, has AMD shown some interest and eating a bit of nV's highend enterprise market.

The 8970 is about a 15% increase, hardware wise, over the 7970, and has GCN 2.0 which should result in another 15-20% performance increase. It will likely position itself between Titan and the 780.

I'm going to agree here. Even if the theoretical numbers didn't support it or we didn't have more information. I would expect AMD to release a card that can beat the 780 at stock. Even if they are forced to redesign the power phasing and aggressively clock it. Stock performance will help drive sales more than anything else.
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You cant (or shouldn't) compare the 7990 to "all NVIDIA card" due to it being a dual GPU card. You can compare it to a 690 & Titan (which owns it). Why do you think the newer NVIDIA GPU's cant beat the 7990? Its because its a dual GPU card....... Perhaps you were unaware of that fact.

Yes you can and yes you should. Price for performance. dual GPU or crossfire or sli vs single gpu doesnt really come into that. For a lot of people, more performance for less money, is all that they want. In that scenario Who cares who has the fastest single core GPU, unless its cheap, in which case Ill buy two of them.
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The Titan pretty much disproves this thread all by its self.
A 7990 is faster, but its multigpu, which isnt the point as far as im concerned.
If my understanding of where OP is coming from is correct, Best single core performance = winner.

But on a more general scale, it doesnt matter who releases first.
You dont just "make" a new chip in a couple months(granted you can hack a few bits off and call it one after the fact), it takes thousands and thousands of man hours to build a new design.
Designs have been in development for a few years(at least) before they hit a fab.
AMDs issues with GF and Nvidias low yield issues with early Fermi cards werent due to design not being done, they were due to manufacturing technology having to catch up with design.

At this stage of development and manufacturing AMD and Nvidia have been committed to the 7xx and 8xxx series in virtually the same form for over a year.
The 7xx series probably took at least several months(probably more) to work on. Even a re-brand gets some pretty heavy revisions.
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