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Pretty obvious people like to own their stuff and have control over it. The $100 lower price, region free, lack of a mandatory camera and lack of arrogance from Sony aren't hurting either wink.gif
Yep. These advantages are the things attracting people to PS4, and it is a real +1 for Sony anyhow.
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I will defend their game sharing policy. If it ends up being like they say it will it is huge. Yet for some reason that is one of the primary points that MS is ridiculed on. I don't understand why. You can buy a game and then one of the ten people can play it at the same time as you on a different device. That basically is cutting the price of the game in half since to do that today you'd have to purchase two copies. Though just watch...game prices on the Xbox 1 will double.

Everything else I will have my torch and pitchfork flailing wildly, though.


Oh...and I wouldn't worry too much about the poll. The majority of customers for either of the new consoles are just going to be people who are walking around the store and say, "Oh? A new (insert console of choice here)? Mom can we get it? Please? Pleeeease?".

Heh, though the numbers are rather staggering. I think it is even more damaging to MS that the poll isn't up any more.

I think the negative reactions are a result of more than just the restrictive DRM. Steam's hugely popular with PC gamers, and its DRM is just as restrictive.

The ire, as far as I can tell (and for me personally) comes from Microsoft's history of essentially screwing over its legitimate customers while to trying to fend off pirates (who are going to thrive either way) and their arrogance and public relations fiascoes they've displayed over the past several months.

There's also the fact they've aimed this console directly at the (massive) casual demographic (I say casual, but it's even less specific than that. XBone is as much about ESPN and Twitter as it is about gaming). By their own admission it isn't a gaming console, but an entertainment center ("For your living room!"), and that's pissed people off. Most gamers, I'd wager, couldn't care less about having ESPN and Netflix accessible from their console. But instead of making their console more friendly to the gamers who've been buying it (and its games) for ten years, they've cluttered its interface with ads, and generally turned it into a difficult-to-navigate pile of bloatware with a laggy friends list underneath (oh yeah, and it costs $50/year).

Again, all these things on their own, if done by another company, might be overlooked. But given Microsoft's history of being greedy and heavyhanded, even with its legitimate, paying userbase, well, it's already sown a lot of distrust.

Again, as I've said in another post, their model might make sense from a business perspective, but as usual their way of communicating it publicly is painful to watch.

Their executives need to stay away from public view and they need to hire a proper PR team, for a start.
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I think lacross is the only person on ocn defending the xbone day in day out.

Does he work for MS?

no, I just don't care about the Kinect or Online "requirement" or limited rights when purchasing a previously used game.

Everything else is 100% win. Not sure how you don't like their online policies so far. Sharing your digitally owned games? Can people borrow your PC games if they're tied to your login info? Nope tongue.gif No longer relying on Discs is a plus. Then the controller is the best hands down for me. Then the games. Love them. So be it, sorry it doesn't please you that I look forward to enjoying the console.
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Pretty much all online opinion I've seen so far is stacked pretty heavily in the PS4's favor atm. I'm interested to see how they actually perform at launch and the months following, and what MS's reponse will be if the console perfoms poorly.
    
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meh even if xbox had the same policies as 360 i still wouldn't be interested.

halo revolutionized console shooters? you mean by adding massive shields and almost instant passive health regen?

xboxlive revolutionized online console gaming? you mean by making voice chat easy enough that a bunch of annoying kids could access it and annoy you constantly? (though i will give you it is better than psn)

xbox's exclusive titles seemed to always have been defined mainly by fps, which is so much superior on pc. the reasons i've always supported ps (in addition to pc) is that japanese developers offer a fundamentally different mindset about what games should (ie jrpgs, fighters, console strategy). while xbox seems to have always been about trying to replicate the pc experience on a console.
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I think the negative reactions are a result of more than just the restrictive DRM. Steam's hugely popular with PC gamers, and its DRM is just as restrictive.

The ire, as far as I can tell (and for me personally) comes from Microsoft's history of essentially screwing over its legitimate customers while to trying to fend off pirates (who are going to thrive either way) and their arrogance and public relations fiascoes they've displayed over the past several months.

There's also the fact they've aimed this console directly at the (massive) casual demographic (I say casual, but it's even less specific than that. XBone is as much about ESPN and Twitter as it is about gaming). By their own admission it isn't a gaming console, but an entertainment center ("For your living room!"), and that's pissed people off. Most gamers, I'd wager, couldn't care less about having ESPN and Netflix accessible from their console. But instead of making their console more friendly to the gamers who've been buying it (and its games) for ten years, they've cluttered its interface with ads, and generally turned it into a difficult-to-navigate pile of bloatware with a laggy friends list underneath (oh yeah, and it costs $50/year).

Again, all these things on their own, if done by another company, might be overlooked. But given Microsoft's history of being greedy and heavyhanded, even with its legitimate, paying userbase, well, it's already sown a lot of distrust.

Again, as I've said in another post, their model might make sense from a business perspective, but as usual their way of communicating it publicly is painful to watch.

Their executives need to stay away from public view and they need to hire a proper PR team, for a start.


The only downside in my opinion is the Kinect...I do not want it. I'd rather look at an empty hole in my console with a few wires hanging out. I do not want a camera in the house that I do not have 100% full control over. As it stands right now...this is making it a no deal for me. However, if it turns out to be not so bad after the dust settles I will probably get one. As long as I can cover the lens and have the Xbox work I think I will get an Xbox One JUST for the sharing of games...though that is relying on that turning out like they say it will and that every publisher won't kill it with some DRM policy.

Xbox Live? Online requirements? Controller? Head set connector? Region Locked? Bleh...who cares. (though the whole region locked thing does bug me a bit...I've learned a fair amount of Japanese and games and anime are about the only way I can keep it fresh. Though so much is voice work these days that I won't be reading much in the game anyway. Thus it isn't that big of a deal any more.)
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