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Hi guys.

I've decided I want to resurrect my old laptop so I can get some use out of it but needed some advice on hardware and such. Before I go on the specs are as follows;

E Systems Laptop
Intel Core Duo T2080 1.73GHz CPU
1Gb DDR II RAM
80Gb SATA Hard Disk Drive
Intel 943GML + ICH7-M with up to
128Mb shared memory
DVD +/- RW
15.4" Screen
Wireless LAN b/g
3 x USB 2.0
TV out ( S - Video )
VGA - Out
Headphone - Out, Mic - In
10 / 100 Mbs LAN
Windows Vista Home Premium COA.

I plan to replace its battery, and also add a new HDD (possibly SSd) and some more ram. I have never made any upgrades to a laptop before so i'm unsure what the limitations are.

Is there a maximum amount of ram and HDD that the motherboard supports? Also am I able to install newer operating systems on this old hardware?

Any help would be appreciated! thumb.gif
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post #2 of 9
Specific Model Number of the laptop would be more helpful
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post #3 of 9
The os may only support a certain amount of ram. So I would look that up. SSD will definitely make a difference, I did the same with mine and it's great.
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Sorry ...I believe its an E-Systems 3115.
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post #5 of 9
There is only so much you can do with an old laptop. Try to read the manual and see what the max supported ram is, and buy ram after that (Buy the fastest ram you can use on it).
A cheap type SSD would no doubt be the best performance upgrade for it (With a fresh OS install too of course), buying a expensive SSD is not needed for old computers because of different sata types which will limit all of the newer SSD's already. So just go for a cheap one with the desired amount of space.

When it comes to drivers, its not sure that you can install something newer, this is all up to the manufacturer. So read the manual, and check their site if they have some Vista/7 drivers.

But if you are going to replace battery, ram and SSD you can probably pick up a newer model used online for roughly the same size, so keep this in mind too. (Would advice you to buy SSD for any laptop anyways though).
    
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post #6 of 9
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Okay cheers for the advice mate! I'll look into it!
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post #7 of 9
That's a Socket M laptop, and nearly all laptops in that generation had very similar hardware and the same chipsets, and should support up to 2 GB of RAM. However, a lot of them are fussy about what kind of RAM they will accept, so make sure if you order some, that the seller guarantees it will work on that model. I had this issue with a Toshiba A105 (see my sig) that I built up last year.

Being that it's a Socket M, you can get a performance boost with an upgrade to a Merom Core 2 Duo CPU, if the BIOS supports it. You'd have to know if E-Systems made similar laptops with better CPU's as they were introduced. Theoretically, you should be able to use up to a C2D T7600 at 2.33 GHz, which will probably beat the slower Core Duo in there by 35-40 percent. However, the T7600 is kind of expensive ($75-100), because it's also the best upgrade available for one of the early Mac Minis. The 2 GHz T7200 provides most of the speed of the 7600 and can be had for as little as $20. Still a nice boost over a Core Duo because of the better architecture, clock speed bump, and being a 64-bit CPU.

The SSD will help a lot, but if you need more storage than what the SSD can offer, you can get a lot of the benefit from a first-gen Momentus XT hybrid HDD, currently for sale at Newegg for $75.

At some point, you will have to decide if it's worth the effort. I turned a Toshiba A105 with a mobile Celeron, 512MB of RAM and a slow HDD into the system you see below (T7200, 2 gigs, Momentus XT) for $115, but it was more an exercise in seeing what could be done than anything else. I probably couldn't have sold it for anymore than I put into it.
     
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post #8 of 9
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Cheers for the knowledge mate! I ran the system scanner over at the Crucial website and it reckons I can have up to 4GB of ram! So assuming thats correct ill stick 2x2GB along with a new HDD...Possibly a 128GB SSD or maybe a hybrid drive like you suggest. Not sure if i'm brave enough to switch out the CPU...

Yeah it makes sense that there is no point in making hard work of it. It just seems a shame to see it go too waste considering it still works. The extra ram alone should make a big difference as it struggles with only the 1GB at present.
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post #9 of 9
If you can run 4 GB of DDR2, go for it. That's great, because most laptops of that era are limited to 2 GB max. The one I have is officially only supported at 2 GB, but I have been tempted to pop 4 gigs of low-density RAM into it just to see if it could handle it. I've been surprised before...

If you do, though, then you definitely need to look into that CPU upgrade and see if it would work. The T2080 is a 32-bit CPU, and as a result, you'd be limited to a 32-bit OS that would only allow you to use about 3.25 GB of RAM, with the rest out to lunch. To fully utilize 4 GB, you need a 64-bit OS, and for that, you need that C2D.
     
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Windows 10 ViewSonic VG2030wm IBM Model M Fractal Design Newton R3 600W 
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Kingston V300 Toshiba 2.5" laptop HDD, 1TB Micron C300 SSD Generic 2TB HDD WL2000GSA1672 (external) 
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Phanteks Enthoo Pro Logitech Marble Mouse Behringer UCA222 Upgraded Realistic Minimus-7 speakers, Lepai 20... 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
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