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That is really sweet, having all W3 DLC's free for PC owners. biggrin.gif
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This is the expected norm from CDP, and definitely good news. Witcher 3 is going to be epic. And, as many people as possible need to support CDP.
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You're the one who decided to take the thread in the direction of asking what makes a game with free DLC inherently of higher quality than one without it, when nobody was saying that to begin with, and choosing to follow up that question with a little eyeroll smiley as if there were something to be rolling your eyes at to begin with (considering you were the one who brought it up, I don't see how there is). It's obvious why your comment was seen as a negative one, to be honest.

Yeah yeah, whatever. It's easy to see negativity in something when it was read into by a few people who couldn't accurately interpret a pumpkin.

I made a simple observation. The negativity, in its ENTIRETY, came from a from people who decided to put words in my mouth and quote me as saying things I never actually said. Like "do you hate PC gamers?", or "would you rather pay for DLC?". THAT's where it came from. I simply posed the question "why does free dlc make a game good?". NOBODY has given me a straight answer on that. All they've been able to do is gang up on me and put words in my mouth.

As for the guy who said I was derailing, it was PERFECTLY relevant. It's relevant because it seems to be a common belief among this generation of PC gamers that free DLC can make or break a game. I've been a PC gamer for over 18 years, and the view of what makes a good PC game has become so skewed lately it's not even funny. No DRM doesn't make a game good. Free DLC does NOT make a game good. A good game from the get go makes a game good. What I said was PERFECTLY relevant.

Here's the thing; what if the news would have been "Witcher 3 DLC's not free"? This is the internet. More specifically, this is OCN. There would have been boycotts (no sense denying it; we'll never know now). Call of Duty used to be "loved" by PC gamers....until they charged for DLC on PC, now it's PC's worst enemy. Never been a CoD lover, but that's a fact regardless.
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Yeah yeah, whatever. It's easy to see negativity in something when it was read into by a few people who couldn't accurately interpret a pumpkin.

I made a simple observation. The negativity, in its ENTIRETY, came from a from people who decided to put words in my mouth and quote me as saying things I never actually said. Like "do you hate PC gamers?", or "would you rather pay for DLC?". THAT's where it came from. I simply posed the questi"why does free dlc make a game good?". ". NOBODY has given me a straight answer on that. All they've been able to do is gang up on me and put words in my mouth.

As for the guy who said I was derailing, it was PERFECTLY relevant. It's relevant because it seems to be a common belief among this generation of PC gamers that free DLC can make or break a game. I've been a PC gamer for over 18 years, and the view of what makes a good PC game has become so skewed lately it's not even funny. No DRM doesn't make a game good. Free DLC does NOT make a game good. A good game from the get go makes a game good. What I said was PERFECTLY relevant.

Here's the thing; what if the news would have been "Witcher 3 DLC's not free"? This is the internet. More specifically, this is OCN. There would have been boycotts (no sense denying it; we'll never knowCall of Duty used to be "loved" by PC gamers....until they charged for DLC on PC, now it's PC's worst enemy. Never been a CoD lover, but that's a fact regardlessardless.

Free DLC does not make a game good. The Witcher series is already established as a good series and CDP as a friend to the PC gamer. Your initial premise to ask why free DLC makes a game good is flawed. That's not what makes a game good. The content of the game is what makes a game good. Free DLC and no DRM is a plus (and really how it should be). I would gladly pay for Witcher DLC because it would be real DLC and it would be further supporting CDP. And free DLC in itself is good, not a bad thing for us. Does it in and of itself make a game good? No. CoD having free DLC would not make it less of a crap game.

Really? You are comparing CoD to TW? CoD is reviled because after CoD4 it jsut became the same game released in a new skin every year for $60. And $15 DLC that are just maps adds insult to injury. Apples to oranges comparison.
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I simply posed the question "why does free dlc make a game good?"..

Well that was a nice troll.
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Well that was a nice troll.

Perhaps you should look up just what 'troll" means.
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I really hope CDProjectRED won't be hit with a bazillion day 1 torrents. Pirates, spare the good guys frown.gif

TW2 still got pirated, but the copies pirated didn't do much, if any, damage to the sales they got on Steam and GOG. CDProjektRED knows that piracy is still going to happen, but at the same time their games are considered good and fair so people did pay in full regardless for it just because of that.

Piracy is only rampant if a game is lackluster, DRM-ridden and overpriced. Most will steer away from piracy if the game is worth every penny it is listed for. The Witcher is one of those rare gems.
    
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They were getting full price from me to begin with, this just reaffirms my commitment to buy.
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Yeah yeah, whatever. It's easy to see negativity in something when it was read into by a few people who couldn't accurately interpret a pumpkin.

I made a simple observation. The negativity, in its ENTIRETY, came from a from people who decided to put words in my mouth and quote me as saying things I never actually said. Like "do you hate PC gamers?", or "would you rather pay for DLC?". THAT's where it came from. I simply posed the question "why does free dlc make a game good?". NOBODY has given me a straight answer on that. All they've been able to do is gang up on me and put words in my mouth.

You got "ganged up on" because it was a question that didn't need to be asked. It would be like if a new really nice GPU was announced to be released at $200 and I stick my nose in and say "How is that going to make it a faster card? rolleyes.gif" Because that's not the point. That's bending the news to something I want it to be about instead of talking about what's it's actually about.

To give your question a direct, honest answer, making DLC free will not make it necessarily better than content that isn't free. It also won't make my computer run the game faster, increase the resolution of my monitor, or make me taller. We could make a list of hundreds of things that free DLC does not do, but instead, why don't we focus on what it actually does? Which is make the game itself their selling point, like it was before the DLC craze, instead of releasing a partially finished game and using that game as a sales pitch to sell meaningless additions to their game. It gives the developers incentive to make a good, complete game that people will want to buy, rather than thinking about what they could potentially add to squeeze a little extra cash out of their customers in the future, or literally on release day in the case of day one paid for DLC. This is the type of thing (along with their DRM stance) that has people openly stating that they want to throw their money at the developers, because they want to show their support for what the developers are doing.

Many see this as a good thing, because they are sick and tired of seeing what new and innovative ways developers can dream up to milk their customers dry. A few skins here, a few weapons there, a new difficulty mode, higher levels, whatever. With free DLC, the game is about the game. With this in mind, fussing over any number of things that it doesn't do is inconsequential. The effects of what it does stands on its own, it doesn't need any more than that.
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TW2 still got pirated, but the copies pirated didn't do much, if any, damage to the sales they got on Steam and GOG. CDProjektRED knows that piracy is still going to happen, but at the same time their games are considered good and fair so people did pay in full regardless for it just because of that.

When they removed their DRM people on torrent websites actually told others to stop downloading it illegally.
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