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I think I can sell my current computer for $400ish. What do you think?

I want this to do what my current 24/7 PC does in performance, but with a lot less power usage. I'd also like to make it into my HTPC.
I'd like a small case which is why I've been looking at the Micro ATX Size cases.

It needs to be able to do all internet tasks (Youtube, netflix, google, etc...)
I'll probably add a Blu-Ray player eventually. So needs to be able to play them as well as "3D" ones using "Nvidia 3D Vision".
I'll use PowerDVD 13. I think that will be the most intensive thing I'll do. Maybe some video games as 720p currently.

This is what I've put together. (I want this to be as power efficient, but powerful as I can leaning more on power efficiency)




Case:(Thinking one of those, I like the Fractal Design one, minus the vent on the side. I'd like to case to be super quite and minimalist.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%20600006306&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=7|11-352-011^11-352-011-TS%2C11-163-182^11-163-182-TS%2C11-112-316^11-112-316-TS%2C11-163-186^11-163-186-TS&percm=11-352-011%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B11-163-182%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B11-112-316%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24%3B11-163-186%3A%24%24%24%24%24%24%24

MOBO:(One of those "I think")
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583%20600006306&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=280|13-157-384^13-157-384-TS%2C13-157-385^13-157-385-TS

Ram: (You think 4gb is enough for a HTPC?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231318

CPU:
Thinking an i3 when they come out. What do you think?

PSU:
Not sure what to get. I'm thinking a Platinum rated would be best. I only need something with one 6 pin for a future gpu I'd say.

SSD will come from my other computer when I upgrade its SSD.
Might add a hdd later.

GPU:
Will use integrated graphics for now.

Sound:
I have a USB or PCI Creative sound card I will probably use.



Anything suggestions/things I'm missing?
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I'm glad to see someone actually planning to use haswell for HTPC, especially since 4K has no real support from most content providers. I think using haswell here is a great decision, the only thing I'd question is the iGPU being able to handle 3D content. But in terms of power consumption and what the iGPU can do when it comes to 4K resolution definitely go for it. 4Gb should be fine, that's all I have in my m-ITX HTPC and I haven't had problems.

-KD biggrin.gif
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I wouldn't plan to use the igp for 3d. Maybe blu-rays, but not 3d. I would eventually get an Nvidia gpu to offload that instead.
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The 80+ Certification is far less important than the PSU marketing strategy wants us to believe. So, don't judge PSUs by it, meaning don't only look at 80+ Platinum units or else you'll be limiting yourself and possibly causing yourself to spend a lot more money than you otherwise could.

Do you want a modular PSU, or does that matter for this build?
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

The 80+ Certification is far less important than the PSU marketing strategy wants us to believe. So, don't judge PSUs by it, meaning don't only look at 80+ Platinum units or else you'll be limiting yourself and possibly causing yourself to spend a lot more money than you otherwise could.

Do you want a modular PSU, or does that matter for this build?

So would I be able to use my old backup OCZ Fatality 550 Watt PSU in the mean time or would that not work with Haswell?
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Originally Posted by Mechrock View Post


So would I be able to use my old backup OCZ Fatality 550 Watt PSU in the mean time or would that not work with Haswell?

 

I apologize for the late reply. OCN's platform failed to tell me that you replied.

 

Anyway, it should be ok. Here's a post I like to quote that explains this better than I can:

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwan456 View Post

An independent PSU or a PSU with a DC-DC secondary will "compatible" with Haswell C7 power state.

Lower-ends group-regulated PSU may have issues with it. Basically, this power state may keep the load of the +12v rail as low as 0.05A, and the whole scare is that the load on the minor 3.3/5v rails will affect the voltage of the +12v and have go out of spec (the higher the load on the 5v, the higher the voltage goes on the +12v). So when you put your computer to sleep and get out of it, the OVP protection of the PSU may trip off and your computer will not power up.

The thing is that it is unlikely that the load on the minor rail during this low power state isn't high enough to cause this problem anyways, so chances are, you don't have to worry even if it is not officially compatible (the testing methodology done by Intel and such is likely tested more in a worse case, unlikely scenario). If you do run into this problem, however, you should be able to disable this feature on the motherboard's BIOS.
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Thanks for replying! Yeah, I thought something like that was the case. That's good because I won't need to buy a psu right away since I have that other as a spare.

I'm still trying to see if I can sell it.


My hope with all of this is to make it into a super power efficient HTPC that also happens to be my 2nd computer I keep on all the time.
You think a Haswell I3 would be able to do 4k with gpu acceleration?
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Originally Posted by Mechrock View Post

Thanks for replying! Yeah, I thought something like that was the case. That's good because I won't need to buy a psu right away since I have that other as a spare.

I'm still trying to see if I can sell it.


My hope with all of this is to make it into a super power efficient HTPC that also happens to be my 2nd computer I keep on all the time.
You think a Haswell I3 would be able to do 4k with gpu acceleration?

 

I would hope so! If it can't, then I'd be very disappointed in Intel. :)

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i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.400-1.424V in Manual Mode) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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