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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

It is easy to see it is made cheaper...

I disagree, though I guess it's personal preference. I just think it's a little off base to call XSPC "low end" when they perform just as well or better, have similar pricing, and have never had serious q/a issues like EK.
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Originally Posted by Leyaena View Post

And if I went with the bigger transparent reservoir + pump? Is there any good way to dye the fluid? Since it would be kind of a shame to have that nice big res filled with just distilled water, wouldn't it?

Either way, the parts I picked out so far are all copper and acetal, so I guess I don't need to worry about the nickel... Thanks for the warning though, guys! smile.gif

If you're wanting colored coolant, then Mayhems has a huge selection of dyes, concentrates and premixes. Their pastel line is especially popular, and looks great in clear tubing/reservoirs.
Edited by failwheeldrive - 6/17/13 at 3:59pm
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And if I went with the bigger transparent reservoir + pump? Is there any good way to dye the fluid? Since it would be kind of a shame to have that nice big res filled with just distilled water, wouldn't it?

Either way, the parts I picked out so far are all copper and acetal, so I guess I don't need to worry about the nickel... Thanks for the warning though, guys! smile.gif

Get a frozen Q res. or just use a uv light on the clear res... Also there is colored res to choose from.
    
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And if I went with the bigger transparent reservoir + pump? Is there any good way to dye the fluid? Since it would be kind of a shame to have that nice big res filled with just distilled water, wouldn't it?

Either way, the parts I picked out so far are all copper and acetal, so I guess I don't need to worry about the nickel... Thanks for the warning though, guys! smile.gif
Most people would say use colored tubing not dye, but the product I mentioned before says you can combine it with their dye as well “Optional: Add PrimoCHILL Dye Bomb of choice to achieve desired color and tint.”
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13066/ex-liq-164/PrimoChill_Liquid_Utopia_Bomb_Bottle_-_15mL_-_Clear_PCLUBT-CLR.html

But as Failwheeldrive mentioned Mayhems has a good reputation for their dyes. While a kill coil can help with microorganisms it doesn’t help with corrosion.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1205823/silver-kill-coil-not-working

Everyone is going to give different advice on coolant, so I am not sure if there is a right answer, but from what I have read a good additive with distilled is better than a kill coil.
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If you can fit a Monsta 480 id go with it.

XSPC stuff is not very good... there the low end market EK is in the highend.

Id go for the real res / pump combo instead of the res with pump inside combo will be better long term.

Loop is not huge so id say 5 = 8 feet would be plenty.. but the 10 foot kit is a better value so id just get it.

Not spot on the money, but pretty much there!
XSPC make some good stuff, but from what I've found their GPU waterblocks are really low quality in comparison to Heatkiller, etc.
There's a reason why I have a HeatKiller CPU block thumb.gif

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After looking into the coolant issue for a while I came to the conclusion that a silver kill coil is not a good way to go. You are better off with distilled plus a good additive like Liquid Utopia.

Silver can also cause issues with nickel, Koolance clearly states “Do not use silver with nickel in the same system” on their products. I realize there will be people that say a kill coil is fine and never caused them any problems, but I have talked to people that have had problems so I just think there are better choices.

Oh really? Shoot, I'll get hold of some liquid utopia next time.. I'm draining my loop soon so I guess we'll see what it's like after a month or so smile.gif
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How is XSPC low end? From the numbers I've seen in the past their raystorm blocks and rx rads perform really well. I remember seeing a comparison between raystorm and other popular blocks recently, and it outperformed most of the supremacy blocks. That, and they haven't had anywhere close to as many quality control issues as EK either. I prefer EK's aesthetics, but I feel that XSPC is a safer bet.

And I wouldn't use a kill coil with EK blocks, especially their nickel plated versions. I'd stick with a premix with biocide.

XSPC don't make the best blocks in comparison to EK, Heatkiller etc. Some of their GPU blocks are really low quality and I'd never buy them again even with the low prices.

EDIT: I have a HAF 932 and I bought one kit of tubing, which is the 3M i believe and I have heaps spare, if you're worried get two kits but one should be fine! smile.gif
 
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There fittings and tubing is pretty far down there to.

There a great Bang for you buck choice... Im using XSPC barbs in one of my systems.

But when u compare lets say...

XSPC tubing vs PC... not even close...

XSPC comps vs Bits power comps not even close

XSPC blocks vs EK Heat killer Swiftech Alphacool Aquacomputer etc.. there is a difference there.
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There fittings and tubing is pretty far down there to.

There a great Bang for you buck choice... Im using XSPC barbs in one of my systems.

But when u compare lets say...

XSPC tubing vs PC... not even close...

XSPC comps vs Bits power comps not even close

XSPC blocks vs EK Heat killer Swiftech Alphacool Aquacomputer etc.. there is a difference there.

Yeah I agree on all of those really, but for the price XSPC barbs work a charm! But the few bitspower 45 degree fittings that I have just look so much nicer, better quality and I feel more safe because they have a better connection to the tubing. Though the XSPC ones are fine, I eventually plan to upgrade the rig to totally bitspower fittings.. One day, they just cost so much! $12 for a rotary 45 degree isn't cheap!

I've never used their tubing, I'm using PrimoChill and I don't think I'll ever use anything different because of the quality of the stuff!

Using an XSPC D5, not sure if that's "not even close" but from what I understand a D5 is a D5.. Apart from the ones that run at 24v, those are crazily loud I can imagine.

Again blocks, I've only used XSPC and Heatkiller, and I can say straight away that Heatkiller are a lot better quality.
 
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The only XSPC block I've had experience with is the Razor Titan, and it was a well made part that performed extremely well. I can't speak to the quality of their other blocks though (aside from Raystorm, which is also a great performer for the price.) I've just always thought of them as a solid value... not the best manufacturer out there (certainly not for tubing and fittings lol) but definitely not the worst way to spend your money either.
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The only XSPC block I've had experience with is the Razor Titan, and it was a well made part that performed extremely well. I can't speak to the quality of their other blocks though (aside from Raystorm, which is also a great performer for the price.) I've just always thought of them as a solid value... not the best manufacturer out there (certainly not for tubing and fittings lol) but definitely not the worst way to spend your money either.

Yah i see XSPC as a bang for your buck company.

There products are alright but not the best.
    
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