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You know, I posted in the PS forums that I actually might buy a PS3 Slim after all these years just to see what I missed out on while me being an xbox 360 only player these last 7 years, and this crap just keeps pushing me to do it and let my 360 collect dust for awhile while I wait for PS4 launch

The Last of Us
Shadow of the Colossus
God of War (any of them)
Ratchet and Clank (any of them)
Metal Gear Solid 4
Uncharted (any of them, but I'm not a fan of 1)
Killzone 2 (3 is a bit crap)
Valkyria Chronicles
Heavy Rain
Yakuza (any of em)

Go go go!
post #52 of 118
last nail in the coffin? or are we in for more surprises?
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I don't really care about this, but MS is not the only one going this rout lately Sony EA among other companies are doing this to., I think this should be illegal and classified has an Anti-Consumerism, this should not be allowed in any EULA or TOS, and if I'm not wrong this doesn't hold in court depending on the Country, I'm pretty sure the EU will have something to say about this.

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Valve I think can get away with it... it's not like theirs is a 100% untested and untried collection of hardware and software debuting at $500 a pop.

Steam will be 10 years old in a few months. How many times in the last five years has the community absolutely exploded with rage over something that's gone wrong with Steam? They've earned their ticket to be treated as though they're reliable.
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Valve I think can get away with it... it's not like theirs is a 100% untested and untried collection of hardware and software debuting at $500 a pop.

Steam will be 10 years old in a few months. How many times in the last five years has the community absolutely exploded with rage over something that's gone wrong with Steam? They've earned their ticket to be treated as though they're reliable.

The only reason this story has ANY traction at all is the bandwagon trend of hating Microsoft. Don't get me wrong, I hope the DRM One doesn't produce a profit for Microsoft because they need to treat gamers much better than they are (we DO NOT need a stinking cable box!!!!!) but Sony implemented this in 2011 after the outage..............didn't hear an outcry then. Microsoft implemented it shortly after.................didn't hear an outcry then. And neither of those companies treat us as well as Steam (IMO) treats gamers........seriously Steam makes me want to build a gaming PC and convert from consoles forever.
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seriously Steam makes me want to build a gaming PC and convert from consoles forever.

You can always do both smile.gif
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I might be revealing some personal ignorance here, but can someone explain this to me? I'm not sure I understand the Steam comparisons all over this forum. When I buy a game on Steam (although I don't own a lot), I download it, then install it. I can open the Steam folder and back that game up or give it to an unlimited number of friends. If Steam goes down, or shuts off permenantly, I still have all my games to play offline or through a virtual network or whatever.

Now, I don't think thats the case with the Xbone. Am I just not buying games on Steam that are actually tied to the service?
    
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What? Is this even legal to do in the United States? There has to be some sort of federal law against this sort of thing.

Since 1999, yes it is; though I would assume that a judge can overrule it if the terms of agreement that involved the waiving of such right violate other laws (in which case the entire terms of agreement would be overthrown).
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I might be revealing some personal ignorance here, but can someone explain this to me? I'm not sure I understand the Steam comparisons all over this forum. When I buy a game on Steam (although I don't own a lot), I download it, then install it. I can open the Steam folder and back that game up or give it to an unlimited number of friends. If Steam goes down, or shuts off permenantly, I still have all my games to play offline or through a virtual network or whatever.

Now, I don't think thats the case with the Xbone. Am I just not buying games on Steam that are actually tied to the service?

When you buy a game one Steam, it's tied to your account... sure you can give the files to any friends, but they can't use them unless they A) Also have your account (which is grounds for a permaban) or B) Also own the game themselves (In which case why would you give them your install?).

It's true that if Steam's servers suddenly explode, your library doesn't go with it. Presumably this is not the case with the XBO, because you have to authenticate your library, and if said authentication fails, you're boned. (I have NO idea how the distinguishes it from Steam in any purely functional sense... I've been awake for far too long.)
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