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Plot twist: nViida paid devs for AMD exclusivity due to being in fear of a monopoly.
 
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Does this mean crossfire wont be broken for BF4 on release day like it was for BF3?
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Good stuff there!
I dont mind if I get 5FPS less in these games because of my nvidia cards.
More money for AMD is good. Very good. Competition/research requires money - so make money AMD!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by icehotshot View Post

From the original article it appeared as so. It was talking as if the only advantage AMD had was getting to see the code first, nothing more. Getting to see the code first doesn't make the game/engine more optimized for one company or another, it just give them more time to prepare drivers. But after a few days or so either company should have "optimized" drivers.

AMD shouldn't have any advantage when it comes to gpu's as optimizations for PC are made through drivers because PC games have to go through an API.

I'm aware of this thumb.gif
post #265 of 329
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Originally Posted by Blindrage606 View Post

Plot twist: nViida paid devs for AMD exclusivity due to being in fear of a monopoly.

Wouldn't surprise me if that was the same strategy Intel used. A monopoly is never good.
post #266 of 329
Just for the record, Nvidia have still failed to fix their drivers with BF3 since 314.22, i have had it with trying drivers, if i want to enjoy BF3 on my Nvidia GPU, forget newer drivers, they cause massive artifacts, Stock and overclocked!

320.27 brings fantastic performance, but has the same crappy LSD effect.


I will say one thing for AMD, they have not yet broken a game that was PREVIOUSLY WORKING on older drivers.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Does this mean crossfire wont be broken for BF4 on release day like it was for BF3?

I was playing BF3 on Quadfire 5970 on release day, so no it was not broken and it was the first time that they had been pushed so hard, i had to crank up the fans.
Edited by Final8ty - 6/19/13 at 10:03am
post #268 of 329
Say hello to Superior Nvidia drivers, how long have we got to wait for a god damned FIX???

This is the fourth driver that presents this problem, there is even a thread about 320.18 causing major issues...

The last working BF3 driver was 314.07, anything above is pure fail.
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post #269 of 329
It made sense for AMD to turn down PhysX. They already are strangled by Intel because they have to license x86. AMD would then be in a position where they'd have to license PhysX from Nvidia as well. Look at how well licensing x86 works for AMD, compilers going for SSE2 instead of SSE4 and AVX because it's not an Intel CPU, the whole BAPCO/SYSMARK incident, lawsuits, etc.

AMD has been burned badly before by having to license things from their competitors. And in reality when you think about it, it's a really bad idea to have your main competitor drafting how a technology you are going to use is going to work.

However as for EA games being optimized for anything, it's sort of a joke. At best we will see games use more cores, but EA games are going to continue to be poorly thrown together, shady hack-jobs with frequent crashes and features that just flat out don't work. EA optimizing anything is like bragging about a new paint job on a Pinto.

Obviously we are going to see games "optimized" for AMD hardware, the console APUs are much different than the high single thread, low core count CPUs that games are optimized for today. However the thing I am wondering is if Intel will have enough power on their 4 core 4 thread machines to keep up with 6 or 8 heavy duty threads. We saw it with i3 for a while but it eventually fell apart and started to lag severely. The truth is that if anything this'll hurt people with 4 core, 4 thread Intels and older AMDs (like Phenoms, etc) but 4 core 8 thread Intels, FX 6300 or better will do just fine.

I do hope that this does mean we're going to see much improved instructions for AMD CPUs. There's a massive discrepancy between performance gained going from Windows to Linux when you're on Intel and AMD, the Intels usually barely improve and the AMDs get much, much faster. Hopefully EA is going to work to rectify this, and they should, Jaguar supports AVX, SSE.42 and lower, and most of the other new instructions.

I would just be delighted if EA started shipping enhanced versions of their games with AVX, SSE4.2, etc enabled, much like we saw a 64-bit version of Crysis back in the day. It'd make a huge difference (more so on AMD than Intel from my experience as AMD usually doesn't use those instructions thanks to shady compilers but Intel usually uses them).
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My Windows 7 runs better because my intel CPU has "shady" performance.


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I will feel no hurt from my CPU either...

Already outperform any 8 core AMD with it in multithreaded tasks (5ghz)
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