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why would they measure computational power with something like GFLOPs or TFLOPs for servers?
FLOPs = Compute Strength.

Every application requires compute strength. Since, majority of servers are running compute based applications, FLOPs are the better resource.
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Maybe Kaveri APU:s will replace the current FX line?
The FX line is part of the 2P/4P lineup so it will continue to use ICs from that category.

If they kill off the AM(x)/C32 platform and basically place FX & ULV Bulldozers to the G34 platform it wouldn't be that bad.
Edited by Seronx - 6/20/13 at 5:23pm
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Steamroller based Opteron X (Berlin) will debut in the first half of 2014




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AMD used Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Corp to fab its Kyoto Opteron X-Series processors using its 28-nanometer processes, and the kicker Berlin Opteron X chips will also come out of the same wafer baker and use the same 28nm processes.

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"There are two separate questions, in my mind, that need to be asked," says Feldman. "Will ARM win in servers? And will AMD win with ARM? I think ARM wins in the long run. In the history of compute, small, lower cost, and higher volume always wins. And community always wins. ARM has lower power, but I don't think, in the end, that it wins because it is lower power. It wins because it is lower cost. It takes the process of making a CPU down from three and a half years and $350m and $400m down to 18 months and $30m."

So why will AMD win? Feldman said that although Samsung and Qualcomm have more experience on the client side, AMD has more experience on the server side than "any ARM licensee on Earth". IP such as a memory controller that can support 64GB of DRAM gives AMD the edge, he said. "This is hard stuff."

And, perhaps more importantly, a lot of the things that many have been suggesting AMD do with its Opteron chips – get PCI-Express 3.0 peripheral controllers, Ethernet ports, and Freedom fabric interconnects on the die, for example – are happening with the Seattle chip, which starts sampling in the first quarter of next year and will ship sometime in the fall.

The Seattle design also be etched in TSMC's 28nm process, and will initially come out with eight Cortex-A57 cores that will offer two times the performance of an Opteron X-Series chip and also offer a "significant reduction" in the wattage it takes to get a unit of work done – exactly how much, AMD is not saying.

Seattle will have 10Gb/sec Ethernet ports on the die, as well as Freedom fabric ports and a high port-count storage interface that is "optimized for big data." The plan is to start with an eight-core part that runs at 2GHz and higher, and then add a sixteen-core version that will have four times the performance of the Opteron X-Series. The Seattle chip will also have offload engines for encryption and data compression.

And if they are cheaper to make and more profitable to sell, AMD might really be on to something here – provided the workload doesn't need a lot of floating point performance.

Don't count AMD out just yet in Server Land

AMD lifts the veil on Opteron, ARM chip plans for 2014
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/18/amd_opteron_arm_server_chips/


The hex core Kaveri APU disappeared from the newer Client Roadmap. the GPU does seem pretty beefy. FM2+
The Register reported that AM3+ supported steamroller based CPUs would be coming out.

Makes sense to release a new platform like FM3 when DDR4 is rapidly available for consumers.
I wouldn't have a problem if AMD phased out AM3 platform (AM3+) and unified consumer products
into a single platform. HSA would be nice to have on all my systems.
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So does that mean no Steamroller for am3+ anytime soon :| ? That sucks, wat r u doin amd
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FLOPs = Compute Strength.

Every application requires compute strength. Since, majority of servers are running compute based applications, FLOPs are the better resource.
The FX line is part of the 2P/4P lineup so it will continue to use ICs from that category.

If they kill off the AM(x)/C32 platform and basically place FX & ULV Bulldozers to the G34 platform it wouldn't be that bad.

They would probably get replaced with FX-grade APUs for future AMX series, since AMD is really betting a lot with HSA.
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So does that mean no Steamroller for am3+ anytime soon :| ? That sucks, wat r u doin amd

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