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As you will see this is definitely not a unit for overclocking. I just finished building a SFF office work computer for my wife to replace her aging HP slimline. I found the new Lian Li PC-Q27 case especially appealing as it has nice clean looks and is the right size for her desktop. As one who has only built ATX machines, I faced an interesting task in terms of selection of components and the build itself. Since her computer is only used for MSFT Office applications, Internet, and occasional video streaming, I didn’t need to consider adding a GPU and would rely on Intel on chip graphics. Her office is upstairs and requires WiFi for connectivity. She is always complaining about boot time on her old computer so an SSD would be needed to hold the OS and core programs. In addition to the Lian Li case, the following components were selected (yes this is a somewhat ‘over the top’ build):

Gigabyte GA-H77N WiFi Motherboard
Intel 3225 i3 CPU
Samsung 120GB SSD
8GB Crucial Ballistic RAM
Western Digital 500GB Blue HD
Silverstone NT07 CPU Cooler
Seasonic G-360W PSU

Although there is room for an optical drive, I elected not to install one as she rarely uses one and it’s easy enough to connect a USB DVD drive if needed.

I knew the case was going to be small and selected the components accordingly. The case is passively cooled with warm air exhausted by the PSU whose fan is oriented facing the MoBo. Heat is likely not to be a problem given how this unit will be used. The combination of the Gigabyte MoBo and the case limit the choices of the CPU cooler. The cooler has to be less than 70mm tall and this MoBo will not take the small Noctua cooler because one of the coils interferes with the mounting. I originally put the stock Intel cooler in but had a MoBo failure as the DVI port died just after getting Windows installed. I was able to get the Silverstone NT07 pretty cheap which has a little better heat sink (I’m sure the Intel cooler is more than sufficient for this) and I believe that this is pretty much the only heatsink currently available in the US (Scythe does not currently sell in the US). A modular PSU would be preferable for this case but there are really no good ones available in the 350W range. I did see a Corsair 430W semi-modular case but didn’t need that much power. The Seasonic G-360 only has six cables which appeared on paper to be manageable since I would only need to worry about where to put the three unused cables.

There is a YouTube video of the case on the Lian Li website so I am not posting a picture of the empty case. The SSD drive can mount on the bottom of the case right below the railing that holds the data hard drive. Lian Li provide rubber grommets that lock both drives in place. I thought that I could run both SATA data cables behind the MoBo and under the HD drive railing but was disappointed to see that it would be impossible to install the SSD SATA cable because of its flush position and had to remove the MoBo since the SATA cables cannot be pulled through as there is not enough clearance for the connector head. The cable for the HD did stay behind the MoBo and there was no problem in connecting it. Because of the proximity of the two drives it was simple to use only one PSU cable that had two SATA power connectors though you have to install both the power and data connectors to the SSD prior to mounting it to the chassis.

There is no reset switch on the case (thank you Lian Li) so I only had to hook up the power switch, power LED and HD LED to the MoBo. I found out the hard way that one needs to tie the cable down to something so that it is out of the way when the PSU is finally put in (the PSU dislodged all the cables and the computer wouldn’t power up!). I ran it up into the optical drive bay and then back down so it was safely out of the way. All connections have to be done before the PSU is put in to the case as there is no access to the MoBo once this is done. You can see how the build looks just before the PSU goes in (the unused cables are tied with the blue Seasonic strap). It takes some care to feed the cables into the case so that they fit snuggly against the right front side. The PSU goes in horizontally. Although there is a slot for a video card, I think it will be challenging to put one in. Perhaps if only a single SSD drive is being used and one has a modular PSU it might work.

I was pleased that the final build looked as clean as it could be. The PC appears to be working fine with minimal fan noise and I cannot detect much if any heat being generated. This is a perfectly good case for a nice office PC and probably a home theater unit as well provided the right components are chosen. I hope this description is of value to others who may be considering SFF builds. If you are a gamer this is NOT the case for you.

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post #2 of 11
Nice. Still seems like too much case though, IDK.
post #3 of 11
Fail.DP.
Edited by Allanitomwesh - 6/19/13 at 5:41am
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I am building an HTPC with the i5 4670K and Antec Kuhler 620. I think it should fit. Using the PC-Q27 case.
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Alan G View Post

The PC appears to be working fine with minimal fan noise and I cannot detect much if any heat being generated.

Hi

I am still hesitating about what PSU to put in my Lian-Li PC-Q03 case, the Seasonic G360 being still a good candidate.

Could you confirm the G360 stays quiet in your small case? Or does its fan sometimes have to spin at 100% and thus makes some noticeable noise?

No problem to deal with the long cables of the PSU?
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It's quiet. I had to replace the Silverstone CPU cooler with the Intel stock cooler as the former must have had a bad baring as there was a noticable whine. The Intel cooler is fine for this application. I recently also built a HTPC with pretty much the same same specifications except I didn't need a hard drive. With respect to the cables, everything fits and there is adequate space for cooling but you really need to be careful when you insert the PSU and move the cables into place. It's really easy to dislodge SATA power and data cables. Don't put the sides back on until you've installed the OS and you have made sure that everything works. With the HTPC installation I have a Blu Ray optical drive which reduces the space and of course dislodged the SATA power cable on the first try. Unless you have the hands of a child you cannot connect the cables with the optical drive fully in place, so it meant unscrewing the supports and moving the drive forward so that I could plug the cable in.

Both PCs work fine and I've had no problems at all. Temperatures are normal and neither unit gets stressed much. Personally I think the PCI-e slot is useless unless you go to a modular PSU so that space can be freed up. I didn't need the slot for anything so it was a non issue.
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It's quiet.
Both PCs work fine and I've had no problems at all. Temperatures are normal and neither unit gets stressed much.
Cool, thx +rep for the feedback! thumb.gif
I have one more heating source than you, the video card, but hopefully the G360 will also be able to cool down the system without its fan at full speed.

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I had to replace the Silverstone CPU cooler with the Intel stock cooler as the former must have had a bad baring as there was a noticable whine. The Intel cooler is fine for this application.
Interesting. So the Intel stock cooler can still do the job even though the PSU fan is blowing in the opposite direction.


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With respect to the cables, everything fits and there is adequate space for cooling but you really need to be careful when you insert the PSU and move the cables into place. It's really easy to dislodge SATA power and data cables. Don't put the sides back on until you've installed the OS and you have made sure that everything works. With the HTPC installation I have a Blu Ray optical drive which reduces the space and of course dislodged the SATA power cable on the first try. Unless you have the hands of a child you cannot connect the cables with the optical drive fully in place, so it meant unscrewing the supports and moving the drive forward so that I could plug the cable in.
Heh I know, that's when sometimes you wonder why the heck did you choose a so small case! But that's also why it is fun to build SFF system, when everything is at its place and working!
I did years ago, but now I always put the sides back at the last moment! wink.gif
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Yes the Intel stock cooler works fine. I thing the design of the case promotes decent air circulation but of course I don't have a GPU installed that could inhibit this. Neither PC is really driven hard and core temperatures are only a degree or two above room temperature so I'm pretty satisfied. I'm really enjoying the HTPC as it streams very well using the Intel WiFi chip on the Gigabyte MoBo. Now I only have to decide between Netflix or Amazon Prime!biggrin.gif Now both my daughters want me to build them a comparable unit!!!
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post #9 of 11
Lian Li PC-Q27 with liquid cooling and Asus 7750 video card - Little mod needed


post #10 of 11
nive build. good idea to chose the Silverstone PSU.
what have you modified on that case ?
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