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Originally Posted by Bruennis View Post

My problems with this review are:

A) If HARDOCP were really looking to compare the best of each why did they not use the 680 Lightning(1392/1765) from an earlier review of theirs: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/30/msi_geforce_gtx_680_lightning_overclocking_redux/4#.UcHYiZydtD8

I believe a 680 Lightning clocked at 1392/1765 would have soundly defeated the 1275/6800 7970 in Metro: Last Light, Crysis 3, and Far Cry. I don't think it would have beaten the 7970 in Tomb Raider but it would have been more competitve.

B) 1241/7800 is a rather low overclock for any 770. Most that I've seen can achieve 1300 on the core. I know of one 770 Lightning that is capable of 1400/2000 with voltage modification. I'm almost certain that with the same mod most if not all 770 Lightnings are capable of 1300+

C) A 7970 @ 1275/6800 that is game stable is a force to be reckon with however finding a sample that clocks this well is actually quite rare and I say this because I've owned quite a few -- only one of five was capable of reaching these clocks.

the hardocp review used the same GTX 680 lightning which you have mentioned in the review link. the only thing is they have retested for game stability with latest drivers and found the new stable clocks. The probability of hitting 1350 - 1400 mhz game stable on GTX 770 and GTX 680 is similar to hitting 1250 - 1300 mhz on HD 7970. the tahitis can remain competitive with GK104 keplers with 100 mhz lower clocks. this has been proven by enough benchmarks on ocn too. the games where HD 7970 dominates like tombraider, hitman, sleeping dogs, max payne 3 are not going to change even with 100 mhz lower clocks.
Edited by raghu78 - 6/19/13 at 11:42am
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post #112 of 197
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I never liked those tiny cases, especially with boost 2.0 relying on the temp of the card. Anyone with a Titan, 780, or 770 would be disappointed if they are not water-cooling them.

Im at 1320/+300 and I never break 70c on mine. Even in Crysis 3, its all about case airflow, and proper positioning. If I had an issue I would just slap a antec 620 on the GPU and call it a day. lol
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Just my 2cents here, i had a EVGA GTX680 2Gb SC and swapped it for HD7970, i run Dual monitors and the difference was actually quite noticable. The constant windows pop up due to low memory has stopped and game performance increased by a nice bit.

Id say any of the cards you have mentioned will serve you well. The 680 & 7970 are both great cards that match each other in many respects, the GTX770 is a beefier 680 with the same vram ( better bandwidth ). I understand the need to get the absolute most from whatever gpu you choose, but the differences between them ( 770, 680 , 7970 ) in gaming terms isn't that huge. The 7970 does have more vram which would come into play should you want another monitor, so that is worth considering.

If it were my choice id go with the HD7970 Ghz Edition ( funds allowing of course ), it's fast, overclockable, 3gb VRAM, low idle power, and cool running ( depending on which model ). Good luck though whatever you choose thumb.gif
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What is opencl game?

I will be playing watchdogs, bf4, gta5, crysis 3 and bioshock so? which one would be better
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What is opencl game?

I will be playing watchdogs, bf4, gta5, crysis 3 and bioshock so? which one would be better


would i get 1000fps in minecraft with 7970,770 ?
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also if i had the money in the future would a 780 be better then a 7970 and 770?
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idk, i want 7970 cause of the games but i want 770 frown.gif

If you can afford to shell out 400 for a gpu why don't you just buy the games yourself? You know the 770 is the better card.
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post #118 of 197
A 780 is faster then both, yes. It comes down to this - how much can you spend?

A 770, 7970 and 780 will all be plenty.
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I never liked those tiny cases, especially with boost 2.0 relying on the temp of the card. Anyone with a Titan, 780, or 770 would be disappointed if they are not water-cooling them.
Why are you so bothered about the V-RAM though? redface.gif I mean, even on 1600p, the 770 is still faster in most games "according to benchmarks on the web". The Titan has 6gb, but a 780 with 3gb vram easily matches it and beats it when overclocked even on the Highest resolutions. I think the V-ram thing has been blown way out of proportion.

It has been shown many time that games are bordering on the 2gb and i do think thats why nvdia up their ante on the top cards for now and future games but i do see where your coming from and in my view its a bit of a gamble.

I had the 7970 and sold it before i lost out on value. I play at 1080p and a single 7970 and higher doesn't cut the mustard with all the bells and whistles activated. Look at the best cards, if vysnc was on they would sink at that res in ultra mode.

So i got myself a hd6540 for the time being whilst waiting for the next generation. Maybe by the the time i get another all the games i miss will be up in the 100s fps ha! thumb.gif
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the hardocp review used the same GTX 680 lightning which you have mentioned in the review link. the only thing is they have retested for game stability with latest drivers and found the new stable clocks. The probability of hitting 1350 - 1400 mhz game stable on GTX 770 and GTX 680 is similar to hitting 1250 - 1300 mhz on HD 7970. the tahitis can remain competitive with GK104 keplers with 100 mhz lower clocks. this has been proven by enough benchmarks on ocn too. the games where HD 7970 dominates like tombraider, hitman, sleeping dogs, max payne 3 are not going to change even with 100 mhz lower clocks.

The 680 Lightning had to be downclocked to 1251/1700 from 1392/1765 to be stable in those games? Even with the newest driver that is a major downclock therefore I have a hard time believing they are the same card. Mine is on WHQL 314.22 and my overclock of 1372/1771 hasn't changed one bit and I've updated and rolled back who knows how many times... I have two of those four games and can run 1352/1700 all day. Like I said, I have a hard time believing they are the same card...

Also most 680 Lightnings with voltage unlocked bios can hit 1350-1400MHz with ease. I would say much more commonly than 7970s hitting 1250-1300MHz. I am also certain that 770 Lightnings with voltage modification can easily do the same if not better.

I have no allegiance to neither but all I'm saying is if you are going to use your finest 7970 sample, why not use your finest 680 sample? A little unfair I would say
Edited by Bruennis - 6/19/13 at 12:33pm
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