Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy
People troll Amazon regarding gaming all the time
When Battlefield 3 announced and was to require Origin/use Battlelog, masses of people went to troll Amazon.
Yet those masses were a drop in the bucket compared to the amount of people who simply didn't care what they were kicking and screaming about. The game released, people bought the game. People enjoyed the game. Nobody gives a damn if people want it on Steam or if they don't like Battlelog or whatever.
Hence both Battlefield, Battlelog and
Origin surviving just fine to this day, with the next Battlefield requiring Origin being of Zero issue to any number of significant people.
So, as I said.
Being extremely loud about something to the point where it seems
like everyone agrees with the large minority crowd, does not mean that a majority of people agree or even care.
That extremely vocal group being overly reactive and making pre-orders that they can cancel at any time is not a guarantee that everybody agrees with them. It just means there were the most vocal and active at the time.
People voting EA worst company in the USA over companies that took peoples homes from them, simply because a certain demographic is most likely to be voting in those polls or grouping together to make their voice the loudest in those polls does not mean it represents everyone else. It just means a certain demographic knows hot to be extremely loud.
People voting 95% against the XBO vs PS4 on an Amazon poll is just another form of that extremely loud swarm of zerglings rushing around the internet that clearly do not represent everybody, but cause only their view to be put forward just by their sheer amount of noise created.
Originally Posted by mushroomboy
It wasnt just amazon that suffered low pre orders, gamestop and best buy. We just got more out of amazon due to the press and polls. Thing is, you saw it everywhere.
If you think it was media that made them do this, thats bats crazy. Why not just run a press conference, or something to show those numbers arent actually justified? Oh, but they were from multiple outlets.
What, now are you going to say trolls where everywhere? Thats my point, your just calling out trolls under the bridge at all of this with no real logical sense. There be trolls afoot, oh noes.
Oh, thats right, it was people actually reacting as a whole. Unless this is some elaborate corporate ploy by competitors with undercover trolls. Might have to wait till i make a new foil hat before i believe that crap. Stopped wearing foil hats after i realized how silly all that was, the truth is generally easier to accept than hysterical crud.
Calm down Bettie.
(Selling less != low. Neither gamestop or best buy have reported "low" pre-orders/demand, neither did Amazon)
My actual point was that the people making the noise did not represent everybody, they just represented the people making lots of noise. I wouldn't think you need to try on a tin-foil hat to be able to make that distinction but you're free to try what you like.
Those people making lots of noise are more likely to do things like troll polls, websites, create angry videos and pre-order bomb to make a loud statement. But that does not make them more numerous than those who don't do those things. That is my point.
Over time, its quite likely that those people will be massively outnumbered by people who weren't watching E3 and therefore didn't rush to pre-order directly afterwards. Or people who did and don't care about DRM. If anything pricing will be the biggest factor for most consumers.
However, due to the masses of noise being made and the fact that the media could logically only report on noise (its not like they're going to report on people who aren't making noise/don't care, is it. Even on national television shows like Jimmy Fallon were spreading the hysteria), the only way they could get some positive press and stop the snowball effect was to reverse the drm.
In doing so, as by-product they also finally
got the media to at least mention
the stuff that MS was implementing that they might have actually liked, rather than just article after article of things that they may not. Which links perfectly with my point that the media almost refused to pick up on anything but negativity. Its just now we're seeing some negativity from people who were actually not unhappy before, but are now.Edited by GrizzleBoy - 6/24/13 at 5:57am