Originally Posted by CyberWolf575
Yes and Yes.
We shall wait and see then. Once the Xbox One is out, it'll be my pleasure to let it have a go against a PC I'll personally build.
Originally Posted by Carniflex
That is source engine tech demo (Lost Coast). It is running at 5400x1920 (that is 20% higher resolution than a 4K screen) with every slider as far as it goes (including AA which you dont need at that high reso) at ~205 fps. That is with a single AMD 7950 GFX card. Source engine is very
well optimized engine. It is also only Direct X 9c engine so not particularly demanding.
However, to be fair, I do expect them to ramp up polygon counts, particle effects and such to the level where XBOne runs it all at 1080p at exactly 60 fps. But you have to keep in mind that XBOne has only DDR3 memory, and even with it clocked pretty high it will hold back the graphics core somewhat (which is in general pretty adequate and supposed to be roughly as powerful as 7790 from AMD). For approx 500 you can indeed make a PC that will deliver roughly equal visual quality to XBOne, which means going for 7850 or 7870 GFX card and building the rest around that without bottle-necking it too hard - but its tight budget and your average console gamer will not be doing that - takes some passing knowledge of PC systems n stuff to get it together on that budget. At ~900 you get already pretty decent gaming PC, something like AMD 7950 and some good enough quad core CPU.
As far as Crysis 3 goes I would not expect a 900$ PC outperform consoles by double the frame-rate - that would be far too optimistic, that's different engine. Perhaps a ~1500 $ would do that with high end GFX cards in crossfire or SLI. But I still would expect a ~900$ PC outperform the ~500$ XBOne somewhat, a bit more AA here or there, a bit higher texture somewhere perhaps, or just a level or two higher AA.
I do know the Source Engine is well optimized. This is why I was able to play HL2 with high settings and 30+fps with my horrible AMD Sempron and ATI Radeon R420 128MB. For most other games though, I don't expect the a 900$ PC to outperform the Xbone by a significant margin if at all. For around 3 generations now, building a PC with the same specs as a console, the PC would always end up being a good deal inferior in terms of performance delivery. The only bright spot is that these consoles are x86 and porting to PC is gonna be much easier this time around which might close the gap a fair bit.
Still, considering these consoles aren't out yet, I'm gonna wait until they're released to judge. As I said before, I really doubt a 900$ PC from today will outperform the Xbone by much. If E3 is indicative of what the Xbone can do(to be honest I think it isn't), then I don't see a PC under 2000$ being able to run BF4 at high with 120fps. Then again, I'm talking about unreleased material so my opinion is as valid as yours.