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Originally Posted by McSwain View Post

The 6800k is cheaper by about 40 dollars compared to a 3470 but when you get into CPU's like the newer Intel Core i5-4430 with HD graphics 4600 that costs only 30 dollars more expensive you see that lead that AMD has here would shrink majorly.smile.gif Not saying this isn't good for AMD I just want to see more fair benchmarks. I mean Id like for AMD to give Intel some competition so we can see more performance increase. Intel wouldn't do this Haswell crap if AMD would just catch up. This is good for both sides of the fandoms. thumb.gif

Ok thanks, then the comparison is fair.
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post #22 of 142
Oh yes. AMD's getting their things straight with OpenCL adoption.

About time! smile.gif
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Originally Posted by McSwain View Post

They should compare a Haswell i5 with a HD 4600 as that fits the price point more than a 3470. A 4430 is cheaper than a 3470 and has about the same performance cpu wise. So no it really isn't.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113331&Tpk=6800k&IsVirtualParent=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116895

Still it's a 25% more expensive. Agree that it would have been a better comparison, though.
Edited by Artikbot - 6/21/13 at 4:28am
   
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post #23 of 142
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I wouldn't get too excited over this, this basically would only be exciting for an AIO desktop niche

for laptops, unless all you're doing is work with Adobe, the better power characteristics and overall performance of Intel win out. For desktop/workstation you're going to pair a dedicated GPU with an Intel CPU and get the best of both worlds.

Again, while this is welcoming news, its nothing to get too excited about, just another step forward to climb out of the hole for AMD.
This is the shortsighted part that bothers me. The whole point of the article is to show a movement or progress if you will, and in this case quite a large one. If you have paid attention to a lot of the 6800k threads you would see some fairly impressive advances in performance. Besides this also speaks to changes in the software world as well. You really think Intel is gonna still have the advantage then? I say no. AMD has placed it self quite well to usher a change in how software is written and how it is utilized. So if you wanna live in the here and now and not a single day beyond then you are gonna be in for a rude awakening.
post #24 of 142
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Originally Posted by Durquavian View Post

This is the shortsighted part that bothers me. The whole point of the article is to show a movement or progress if you will, and in this case quite a large one. If you have paid attention to a lot of the 6800k threads you would see some fairly impressive advances in performance. Besides this also speaks to changes in the software world as well. You really think is gonna still have the advantage then? I say no. AMD has placed it self quite well to usher a change in how software is written and how it is utilized. So if you wanna live in the here and now and a single day beyond then you are gonna be in for a rude awakening.

Some people are also forgetting that AMD is starting to introduce APUs with FirePro graphics... Guess we're going to see someone at Autodesk and Dassault Systèmes soon announce that their products are now compatible with combined acceleration just like Adobe has smile.gif
   
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They should compare a Haswell i5 with a HD 4600 as that fits the price point more than a 3470. A 4430 is cheaper than a 3470 and has about the same performance cpu wise. So no it really isn't.
So how about benches when they take and use a FX 8150 rather than a FX8350. I have seen quite a few Intel benches where they used the fx 8150 and thought why? But then I realized it was so the Intel chip would look far better. It is the reason I take benches with a grain of salt.
post #26 of 142
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I wouldn't get too excited over this, this basically would only be exciting for an AIO desktop niche

for laptops, unless all you're doing is work with Adobe, the better power characteristics and overall performance of Intel win out. For desktop/workstation you're going to pair a dedicated GPU with an Intel CPU and get the best of both worlds.

Again, while this is welcoming news, its nothing to get too excited about, just another step forward to climb out of the hole for AMD.

Except you have to remember that if a APU is doing more work and finishing more quickly, it may still end up using less power...Say one CPU uses 40w and spends about 5 minutes in an hour being heavily loaded while the other uses 30w but spends 20 minutes being heavily loaded and ends up using more power.
Really, we have to wait and see...and besides, they're using the GPU here which may mean it doesn't need to constantly run the CPU under high clocks.
    
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Oooo shiny

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Sounds to me like this is HSA in action.
No , its just a GPU in action. The IGPU in the 6800K is by far better than than the HD2500. But lets be honest whos dumb enough to use the iGPU to do photo/video editing ?!! Id rather have a Core i5 3470 and discrete workstation card than a 6800K+ the same discrete card.
Edited by DarkBlade6 - 6/21/13 at 5:35am
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Glad to see some real world applications with the APU's, very good news indeed
Hopefully there are many more good this, the lil' APU that could

Would love to see what a dedicated AMD GPU could do, and a nice comparison to an nVidia card too
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Id rather have a Core i5 3470 and discrete workstation card than a 6800K+ the same discrete card.

But if you make just the discrete card do the acceleration instead of iGPU, wouldn't you still want the 6800K as it's significantly cheaper?
     
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