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[Build Log] SpeedBird467 - First Intel build (4670k OC RESULTS IN !!!).

post #1 of 10
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Hello all,
I've decided to start a build log for my new rig, which I will name SpeedBird467 . The reason for the name is mainly because it will be used for flight simming. The 467 comes from the CPU which will be an i5 4670k.
This build won't be anything special, it won't include any fancy watercooling or case mod, it may even be considered as ugly by some, due to the clashing colours of blue and red, not to mention the orange and blue LED RAM biggrin.gif.
So it's just a simple build, and the log is here for reference for anyone that is planning to buy any of the components in this rig. I'll also be overclocking the chip so I'll update this log with my OC results too.

I was supposed to be on a budget but then I extended that budget to allow me to create a more 'future proof' build (if there is such a thing nowadays...). My original plans were based on a Gigabyte Z77X-UD4H board and a 3570k chip.
That changed to the following:

Case:In Win GR One (gunmetal grey with transparent side panel)
Motherboard:Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H - I found that the UD4H provided the best value for money for me, for both of Gigabyte's Z77 and Z87 chipsets.
CPU: Intel i5 4670k
RAM: 2* 4GB Crucial Ballistix Tactical Tracer 1866 MHz, CL9, 1.5v (not an 8Gb kit)
Cooling: Phanteks PH-TC14PE (got the blue version - to match the red colour scheme of the board I would have had to pay £10 more and I was already well above budget.)

The rest of the system will be made up of components from my current build:
Graphics: Asus GTX 560 Ti
Boot and Storage drives:256 GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD + 1 TB WD Caviar Green HDD + 500 GB Seagate HDD
Power supply: Corsair 750W (CX750)
Fan controller: Scythe Kaze Master II, (4 channels)
Some generic DVD reader/writer
Some fans, including a high airflow (110 CFM) Scythe Slip Stream 120mm fan.

Will be building the rig later on today and will post pics.
One thing I can't decide is if I should use MX-2 or the bundled Phanteks TIM on the chip. Can anyone suggest from experience which might be better ? Thanks smile.gif
Any questions on why I chose the parts that I did are welcome.
More stuff later on today .



Edited by octhis - 6/24/13 at 8:51am
SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #2 of 10
Thread Starter 
Unboxing and brief overview of the case:


Front I/O panel with inbuilt fan controller.


The chassis cage behind the front panel doesn't look too appealing...

Side window can easily be swapped out as its only being held by a few screws.

You can definitely fit an H100 in there, but not in Push&Pull.



There is also space for a rad at the bottom:

Edited by octhis - 6/23/13 at 4:03pm
SpeedBird467
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
This motherboard has so many features and great looks!











SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 




I ended up using the included Phanteks TIM instead of my MX-2. Currently 8 hours into prime at 4.1 GHz with load temps of 69 C max at a vcore of 1.18v . But more on this later...


The tower is bigger and heavier than I thought:






RAM Clearance with and without fans (non-low profile RAM)







Finally in the case...


Edited by octhis - 6/23/13 at 4:29pm
SpeedBird467
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #5 of 10
Awesome build!

No matter how ugly or boring it looks building your own PC. I find it interesting. (Your build isn't ugly, its pretty, you got the theme right i guess...) thumb.gif

I love your build, you got good hardware and awesome shots of different PC parts especially the motherboard. Can't wait to see what you'll do next biggrin.gif

And also SUB'D!
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrHaythem View Post

Awesome build!

No matter how ugly or boring it looks building your own PC. I find it interesting. (Your build isn't ugly, its pretty, you got the theme right i guess...) thumb.gif

I love your build, you got good hardware and awesome shots of different PC parts especially the motherboard. Can't wait to see what you'll do next biggrin.gif

And also SUB'D!
Thanks ! I'm overclocking it at the moment. Don't want to say anything until I finish the current Blend run just in case it crashes and makes me look like a twonk ...
But I'm safe to say I'm past 4.2 GHz.

Final pictures before it moves to its permanent spot.

The GR One compared to my HAF 912






I was never good at cable management but I tried my best here.I guess using a modular PSU would help...








Software to change the LED pattern and activity on the Ballistix RAM:





Idle chassis temps at 4.4 GHz:

Edited by octhis - 7/1/13 at 9:56am
SpeedBird467
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 
Some trouble with memory compatibility ...
http://www.overclock.net/t/1404532/need-help-urgently-please/
OC results after I get new RAM.
I'm looking for a reliable and fast (tight timings) 1600 MHz 8 GB set, with short or no heat spreaders (I won't touch the memory once it's in).
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
***OVERCLOCKING RESULTS***

Chip: Intel i5 4670k Malaysia Batch L307B086



For stability testing, I ran the following tests
4.1 GHz - 12 hr Blend - Passed
4.2 GHz - 12 hr Blend and Large FFT - Passed
4.4 GHz - 20 rounds of IBT on Max , 13 hr Large FFT , 12 hr Blend - Passed

For comparisons and checking performance, I used IBT and Cinebench. Results of these tests are shown below.
Load temps are shown by the IBT tests (Prime95 tests never exceeded IBT load temps, however OCCT tests did).

Method of testing:
  • IBT
    Max RAM (all memory available at the time, I forgot to keep this constant but I don't think it has a big effect on GFLOPS, and it seems all the tests were within 100mb of each other with respect to Max RAM set)
    Average GFLOPS taken at the end for the comparisons
  • Cinebench
    OpenGL - 5 runs
    Multi core performance - 3 runs (less runs due to smaller variations in score)
    Single core performance - 3 runs
    (averages taken for the comparisons at the end)

    I ran all three tests in Cinebench for each overclock.
    I restarted Cinebench after each run because otherwise the scores wouldn't change.
    The variation is the score showed no pattern, I can do 2 runs of OpenGL and get 67.3 then 66.78 and the third run may be 66.54 etc...
    The scores are therefore not necessarily in chronological order within Cinebench.
    For the comparisons at the end, I've edited the Cinebench results text files to show the actual speed of the 4670k and the calculated average values.

Ambient temperatures, measured 30 cm away from the case, were between 21 and 23 C during all the tests.

STOCK PERFORMANCE with SpeedStep disabled

Cinebench averages for 3.4 GHz
OpenGL - 66.23
Multi core performance - 5.80
Single core performance - 1.48





IBT


BIOS








STOCK PERFROMANCE SpeedStep enabled - default Turbo of 3.6 GHz when all 4 cores under 100% load

Cinebench averages for ~3.6 GHz
OpenGL - 71.99
Multi core performance - 6.14
Single core performance - 1.69








IBT



BIOS







4.10 GHz

Cinebench averages for 4.10 GHz
OpenGL - 78.98
Multi core performance - 6.97
Single core performance - 1.78









IBT


BIOS
Same as for 4.2 GHz (below) except for the multiplier.

4.20 GHz

Cinebench averages for 4.20 GHz
OpenGL - 78.92
Multi core performance - 7.13
Single core performance - 1.82





IBT


BIOS







4.40 GHz

Cinebench averages for 4.40 GHz
OpenGL - 83.15
Multi core performance - 7.45
Single core performance - 1.91





IBT


BIOS







**COMPARISONS**

Comparison of achieved clock speeds and their respective performances

IBT
Gain in speed with 1 GHZ overclock - 23.4729 GFlops , this is a ~25% increase in performance!

Cinebench

Graphics performance



Again, 25+% performance increase. This is obviously a significant improvement over the stock performance of the chip, however the 4.2 GHz overclock seems to provide the best performance per vcore applied. Remember, I needed 1.188v for a solid, stable 4.2GHz while I need 1.32v for a stable 4.4 GHz. So an 800 MHz overclock may well be the perfect balance between performance and CPU degradation due to heat and higher voltages. I have not tried 4.3 GHz yet but I would imagine I would need between 1.25 and 1.3v for that clock.

Quad core performance



28% increase in performance here at 4.4 GHz, but again, even though 4.2 GHz yields slightly slower calculations, it does so at much lower temperatures (the hottest core was 18 degrees C cooler during IBT)

Single core performance



29% faster core , which reflects the 29% difference going from 3.4 to 4.4 GHz.

Clock for clock comparison: AMD Phenom II 1055T vs i5 4670k
(1055t from my previous rig, 6C/6T is always the 1055t and 4C/4T is always the 4670k, no cores have been disabled for either overclock)

OpenGL

Multi core performance

Single core performance


^The single core test really surprised me. One Haswell core at 2.81 GHz is on par with one Thuban core at 4.18 GHz. Wow! (or am I interpreting it wrong?)

I won't be trying to push this chip further as it's already reaching 90 C in IBT and 60+ C in games like Metro 2033 and Hitman Absolution.
Also, looking at the massive jump in vcore from 1.188v for 4.2 GHz to 1.32v for 4.4 GHz , I don't think I could stay stable at 4.5 GHz with anything lower than 1.37v and even then I would need custom water cooling to get rid of that heat (or even LN2).
I would really appreciate some advice on lowering vcore while maintaining stability. You can see my voltage settings on the BIOS pictures.

It took me a whole day to run the benchmarks and put this post together so I hope it helps someone.
Thanks for reading, and good luck with your OCs!
Edited by octhis - 7/8/13 at 10:24am
SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Sorry for the low quality pics, it's a shame OCN resizes them. I might try to crop and reupload them soon.

EDIT:
Fixed! Most screenshots have been cropped and re-uploaded.
Edited by octhis - 7/8/13 at 10:30am
SpeedBird467
(16 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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post #10 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ok so I got the new set of memory and the board seems to work fine with it.
Looks like this was a compatibility issue... which I found strange since DDR3 is DDR3... and the modules weren't even faulty.
Gigabyte was amazing when it came to support emails. Quick and helpful responses! (They even tested the same RAM on their board and it was working for them so I don't know what was up with mine.)

So new RAM in the system:
|G.Skill Sniper 1866 MHz, 9-10-9-28 @1.5v | (XMP)
Will be sending the Ballistix back to Amazon.
SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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SpeedBird467
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5 4670k (4.2 GHz, 1.212v, Power saving ... Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H VTX3D R9 280x G.Skill Sniper | 1866 MHz | 2 x 4 GB 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
OCZ Vertex 4 256 Gb Generic OEM DVD reader/writer Phanteks PH-TC14PE Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit OEM 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung P2370HD Logitech K310 Washable Keyboard Corsair CX750 750W In Win GR One 
MouseMouse PadAudioOther
Perixx MX-3000 Desk Onboard audio and headphone amp provided by chi... Fan Controller - Scythe Kaze Master II 
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