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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Too high bitrate. If your source is close to lossless - and you are re-encoding - then only your re-encode settings matter, not how the video was originally captured. Your avermedia etc settings will just be using lower bitrate than you're re-encoding to, probably. Or a better encoder, but you're probably using the best already? What settings are you rendering with?

I'm recording at absolute maximum in shadowplay, and rendering using the youtube 1080p profile in vegas. I've tried in premiere pro as well, same result.
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Are there any defacto render out settings that people use with various editors? I've been getting less-than stellar results...blockyness etc...when with my capture card, which is also records using H264, it looks absolutely fine.

Basically, it looks fine after I record it. I edit and render it, it still looks fine. Hits youtube, looks like taint...and it only happens with shadowplay videos. I could use any other H264 encoder (black magic, avermedia etc) and it works fine. Am I just rendering shadowplay videos wrong?

Nvidia keeps telling me "it looks fine"...which immediately tells me that they have very low standards.

Link some videos and comparisons then?
I render my videos - they ALL look fine in my PC - upload them to YouTube and I have no idea what they do, but it all becomes crap.
I've got no time or bother to upload a 4K file or anything like that to YouTube either. DL;DR TheyTube sucks so hard in terms of compression of files.
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I upload In 4K, H.264 @ 3200x1800. File size is usually between 1-3 GB for around 10 mins. YouTube is terrible for anything other than slow motion videos anything with fast motion e.g. FPS games looks terrible. For acceptable quality I select the 1440P or above quality on YouTube for a 1080P monitor.

I could see why people with slow connections wouldn't want to upload in 4K though. The render time shouldn't be an issue for anyone though as H.264 in Premiere pro renders extremely fast.
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They reccomend ~8mbit for 1080, best to shoot a bit under and use 30fps
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I upload In 4K, H.264 @ 3200x1800. File size is usually between 1-3 GB for around 10 mins. YouTube is terrible for anything other than slow motion videos anything with fast motion e.g. FPS games looks terrible. For acceptable quality I select the 1440P or above quality on YouTube for a 1080P monitor.

I could see why people with slow connections wouldn't want to upload in 4K though. The render time shouldn't be an issue for anyone though as H.264 in Premiere pro renders extremely fast.

In fact you have to ALSO think about your audience.
A video uploaded in 4K vs 1080P, even when both are watched at 720P - the 1080P one loads faster.
I won't ever upload higher than 1080P/1440p personally.
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They reccomend ~8mbit for 1080, best to shoot a bit under and use 30fps

While that is what the YouTube guidelines say there have been a few members of Google staff who recommend you upload the best possible file as it is the file you upload with which all quality options are derived from via transcoding your uploaded file for now and in the future when YouTube inevitably gets even higher quality options than 4K.

Here is the article I'm referring to, at the bottom "A word from Google"

http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=83876
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In fact you have to ALSO think about your audience.
A video uploaded in 4K vs 1080P, even when both are watched at 720P - the 1080P one loads faster.
I won't ever upload higher than 1080P/1440p personally.

What? I assume you're talking about processing i.e. from when the video is completely uploaded to when it can be viewed at 720p, 1080p etc. If so this is isn't really a reason or problem for that matter, With YouTube now you upload the video (Not even scheduled upload) and when the video is uploaded you have to click the publish button even on uploads with which you've selected public. I upload at 4K the upload finishes and the video is watchable in all resolutions/qualities all the way up to 4K within 5 minutes. If it is a scheduled upload this isn't an issue at all.
Edited by Razor 116 - 3/18/14 at 4:37pm
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While that is what the YouTube guidelines say there have been a few members of Google staff who recommend you upload the best possible file as it is the file you upload with which all quality options are derived from via transcoding your uploaded file for now and in the future when YouTube inevitably gets even higher quality options than 4K.

Here is the article I'm referring to, at the bottom "A word from Google"

http://www.streamingmedia.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=83876
What? I assume you're talking about processing i.e. from when the video is completely uploaded to when it can be viewed at 720p, 1080p etc. If so this is isn't really a reason or problem for that matter, With YouTube now you upload the video (Not even scheduled upload) and when the video is uploaded you have to click the publish button even on uploads with which you've selected public. I upload at 4K the upload finishes and the video is watchable in all resolutions/qualities all the way up to 4K within 5 minutes. If it is a scheduled upload this isn't an issue at all.

I don;t think I made myself clear then.
If someone is WATCHING YOUR VIDEO - a video UPLOADED at 4k will take longer to load than a 1080P one. No matter what detail; they select (say it is 480p or 720p)
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Question can i stream starcraft broodwar with shadowplay?

or is it better that i use OBS?
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I don;t think I made myself clear then.
If someone is WATCHING YOUR VIDEO - a video UPLOADED at 4k will take longer to load than a 1080P one. No matter what detail; they select (say it is 480p or 720p)

The only way that would be possible is if youtube stored the 4k video on an "ULTRA MEGA HD" server, and all of the conversions of such... and then stored any lower-quality uploads with their conversions on different ones... and on top of that, the HD ones were experiencing a higher load, and thus loaded slower.

I do not experience that effect checking my personal youtube videos from work (some are older and fairly low quality).
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The only way that would be possible is if youtube stored the 4k video on an "ULTRA MEGA HD" server, and all of the conversions of such... and then stored any lower-quality uploads with their conversions on different ones... and on top of that, the HD ones were experiencing a higher load, and thus loaded slower.

I do not experience that effect checking my personal youtube videos from work (some are older and fairly low quality).

Iv'e found that to be the case when I load videos.
Reason being is because you're loading the whole video - but then compressing it.
Thus if you load a 4k - 5GB video vs a 1080P 500mb video - the 1080p one loads faster - that's my perception of it.
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