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Windows 8 just killed my m4?

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#1 ·
Had my M4 since launch on Win7, no issues. Installed Win8, did all my settings, everything was working perfectly. Got up today, no SSD being detected in BIOS. Made sure it wasn't lose cables, tried different controllers, different cables. It had the latest firmare.

Any ideas?
 
#3 ·
Only have a laptop and have no way to connect it.
 
#4 ·
I'm going with unlikely coincidence. Random SSD failure, probably not OS related. Also might want to try resetting the BIOS, even sata controllers can get into a funk.
 
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If you google Win8 killing SSDs many many people claim this happens on M4s. There was 0 smart errors, 99% SSD life. The drive just went from that to completely dead overnight? Hard to believe considering other people seem to have had he same problem.

The SSD is probably not being detected for some other reason, which is why I am posting.
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Originally Posted by Vlasov_581 View Post

lol....pull out the laptop hdd and put the ssd in it
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I know nothing of laptops, this isn't mine and it's a friend's work laptop. I'll ask him if I can mess with it...
 
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

If you google Win8 killing SSDs many many people claim this happens on M4s. There was 0 smart errors, 99% SSD life. The drive just went from that to completely dead overnight? Hard to believe considering other people seem to have had he same problem.
I know nothing of laptops, this isn't mine and it's a friend's work laptop. I'll ask him if I can mess with it...
M4 here, Using 8 since RTM in August last year. No issues. Theory debunked. PEBKAC.
 
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Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle View Post

M4 here, Using 8 since RTM in August last year. No issues. Theory debunked. PEBKAC.
Just because one person never experiences an issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I used Win8 way back at launch too on this SSD.
 
#9 ·
Make sure your bios is achi not IDE, some SSD's have issues with ide mode in combo with win 8. Of course switching this will prob not help maintain your data, but seeing as how it not detected you dont really have much to lose. You could get a external drive bay/reader and try that, i have one for things like this
 
#10 ·
the M4 is an old SSD with some dependability issues.

I would try it in another computer, see if it's a MB or SSD issue. Either way, i don't see what blaming windows 8 will accomplish. M$ won't cover the cost of your dead M4 even if you prove it's Win8's fault. And nothing we say (if win8 killed it) will fix the problem...

you've got to move past blame and find out what's wrong. did your mb crap out, or did your ssd? best way to find out is to try the SSD in another pc. If it works, then your mb crapped out.

Also... try another cable (power and ssd cable). we need to make sure it's not a connection issue. If your ssd is dead i would check out your PSU. dying hardware always raises alarm bells in my head and the first thing i check is the psu... cause a faulty psu can kill a lot of things; and you don't want to suddently find your mb exploded or cpu caught on fire killing your machine just because you didn't want to check out your psu when your ssd died.
 
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Originally Posted by Zer0CoolX View Post

Make sure your bios is achi not IDE, some SSD's have issues with ide mode in combo with win 8. Of course switching this will prob not help maintain your data, but seeing as how it not detected you dont really have much to lose. You could get a external drive bay/reader and try that, i have one for things like this
It's on ACHI
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I know nothing of laptops, this isn't mine and it's a friend's work laptop. I'll ask him if I can mess with it...
you won't cause any damage to your friend's laptop or its installation. just pop the bottom cover off, pull his hdd out, and plug your ssd in. turn on the laptop and see if it finds it. after you're done, just put the original hdd back in, and install the cover. no harm done. should be ok if you're THAT frustrated
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Originally Posted by Vlasov_581 View Post

you won't cause any damage to your friend's laptop or its installation. just pop the bottom cover off, pull his hdd out, and plug your ssd in. turn on the laptop and see if it finds it. after you're done, just put the original hdd back in, and install the cover. no harm done. should be ok if you're THAT frustrated
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I suggest you try this out, I am sorry to hear this happened, but I'm thinking your drive isn't dead... Don't give up hope!

My old X25-Vs are running solid, and I am about to switch to 8 someday.... would like to see if your SSD will be fine.
 
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I thought mine did the same thing initially... had to repair it (the install and boot manager) and has been fine ever since.
 
#17 ·
Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
Glad to hear it
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To those that felt like trolling. Grow up!
 
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#19 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
Yeah, pretty much what I ended up doing on accident the first time it went missing. Odd issue.
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
Glad you found a fix!
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
Which firmware are you using, i know you said latest, but just want to make sure. If it happens again, just revert back to firmware version 0309 and you should not have any more issues.
 
#22 ·
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

Which firmware are you using, i know you said latest, but just want to make sure. If it happens again, just revert back to firmware version 0309 and you should not have any more issues.
The irony is the newer firmware versions were meant to improve operation with Windows 8. From the 070H firmware update notification:

Like recent firmware versions, version 07MH has improvements over versions 000F which are specific for Windows 8 and new UltraBook systems, although systems running Windows 7 and other operating systems may also see improvements. Any m4 firmware version will function normally in Windows 8, even without these performance improvements.
 
#24 ·
I'm happy everything worked out for OP. I'm sorta hoping that Crucial continues with the M(x) naming scheme so that someday I get to see a thread title "Windows 10 killed my m8".
 
#25 ·
I had an OCZ die on me in the same way, on windows 7, back when that happened OCZ were replacing drives that did this due to the controller being the "culprit", I since learned of the fix and wondered if that would have helped.

If its a Sandforce controller there were a bunch of ideas of what could trigger a failure so bad that it couldn't be seen in BIOS.

Filling the drive to withing 20% of it's capacity was one
another was TRIM not properly set up
thirdly and possibly quite an important one, when the drive shared SATA power cables with Optical or old Slower HDD's, variations in power on the line could cause fluctuations that may destabilise the drive and cause it to crash. A lot like how bad power supplies can destabilise ram in a pc.
(also cheap PSU's)

anyway, glad to see it is sorted, support from SSD vendors tends to be pretty good, so don't hesitate to get in touch with the manufacturer.
 
#26 ·
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Originally Posted by Murlocke View Post

Fixed it. Apparently these SSDs can have weird issue where they aren't detected after going to Win8, according to what I've found when googling. Crucial has steps to fix the issue.

The fix was to:
Connect the SSD to power only, wait 20 minutes with the computer running.
Turn comp off, disconnect power to SSD and wait 30s.
Repeat both steps.
Connect SSD normally.

Thanks for the people that helped, I figured this wasn't a failure. Rep will be handed out.
I had to do the same thing once. That procedure fixed it. My board gets really fussy sometimes and simply won't see drives that are most definitely connected.
 
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