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Hello awesome people of OCN,


I have a slight dilemma of which I have put a lot of thought and research into. Even with my personal time spent trying to resolve this problem I want to turn to the limitless knowledge of the great people here of OCN to help aid my search for the solution. First, let me state the components then I will state my theory. Just as a side note you may feel this is entirely superfluous, but I digress.


Components:

AMD FirePro W8000 Workstation Card
NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti KingPin Gaming Card (x2)
Samsung 840 PRO 512GB SSD (x2)
ASUS Rampage Extreme IV Black Edition Motherboard X79
Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition Hexa-core i7-4960X 3.5GHz


Now onto the specifics of this rather vexing conundrum.

I am in need of a workstation card and a gaming card. I am only in need of one system however, I feel there might be a way to make this work.

My research has lead me into LucidLogix's VirtuMVP. Which at first looks like the a possibility, but I find that in most cases it suffers from a few deficiencies.
A few being slow updates and bad performance hits.

Then, I found a gentleman who said he had a Radeon 5870 with an NVIDIA 560 and it worked, but he did it on the same windows 7 install. He had a few main problems because of the two drivers residing on the same partition/install of windows 7. He had a ASUS Rampage Extreme also. The biggest problem he spoke of was that the boot screen and BIOS would only appear on the first graphics card (slot 1 vs slot 3 in this case where slot 3 was the second GPU).

This all leads me to believe one thing, that it could work. Now try and follow my potential solution and please offer your advice and experiences.



FIRST METHOD: (SEPARATE WINDOWS PARTITIONS SAME SSD)


PARTITION ONE: (NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti KingPin (x2) = PLAY PARTITION)

First, I install the two NVIDIA GTX 780 cards on partition one with all required drivers. Second, pop in the AMD FirePro W8000 then disable it in Device manager.
Then disable auto-installation of GPU drivers on startup for partition one.
(Start > right click my computer > properties > advanced system settings > hardware > device installation settings > choose no and never install drivers)

PARTITION TWO: (AMD FirePro W8000 = WORK PARTITION)

First, with the already installed AMD FirePro W8000 all I need to do is install the required drivers. Second, disable the two NVIDIA GTX 780s in Device manager.
Then disable auto-installation of GPU drivers on startup for partition two.
(Start > right click my computer > properties > advanced system settings > hardware > device installation settings > choose no and never install drivers)





SECOND METHOD: (TWO SEPARATE SSDs WITH WINDOWS INSTALLED EACH)


SAMSUNG SSD ONE: (NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti KingPin (x2) = PLAY SSD)


First, I install windows onto the ssd that will use the NVIDIA GTX 780 cards and on the main partition install all required drivers. Second, pop in the AMD FirePro W8000 then disable it in Device manager.
Then disable auto-installation of GPU drivers on startup for the first Samsung ssd.
(Start > right click my computer > properties > advanced system settings > hardware > device installation settings > choose no and never install drivers)

SAMSUNG SSD TWO: (AMD FirePro W8000 = WORK SSD)

First, I install windows onto the second ssd that will use the AMD FirePro W8000 card and on the main partition install all required drivers. Second, disable the two NVIDIA GTX 780s in Device manager.
Then disable auto-installation of GPU drivers on startup for the second Samsung ssd.
(Start > right click my computer > properties > advanced system settings > hardware > device installation settings > choose no and never install drivers)




So let me know what you think and if you have a potential way to get this to work!
Edited by Unlox - 2/22/14 at 4:58pm
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While I know nothing about pairing a workstation and gaming card, but my system works perfectly with an HD 6950 and GTX 460. Booting up requires the first card (460), but after that it's cake. Want to play Borderlands 2 with PhysX? Just plug in the Nvidia card; everything works. Play a more demanding game? DVI goes to the AMD card. Everything works. The drivers for those two cards don't interfere with each other, only when trying to do simultaneous BOINC/F@H.

So installing both on a single partition seems possible. But it wouldn't be a bad idea to have separate partitions. Anybody who has experience with workstation/gaming?
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Awesome, so it seems I may have some solid ground to walk around on here. So you are able to game and simultaneously use the other card? My understanding is that the software may be crossing the two manufactures different processing approaches when F@H.
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I actually like the idea separate partitions. Have one completely set up for workstation work, cad and all that, the other completely games and daily stuff.

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Yep you could have something like this:



More like this though:

Windows 8 Work

Windows 8 Play


Also, you could switch to the NVIDIA side when you wanted to take care of applications that make use of CUDA like Adobe software even though Open CL has been damn good recently.
Edited by Unlox - 6/24/13 at 1:31am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nvidiaftw12 View Post

I actually like the idea separate partitions. Have one completely set up for workstation work, cad and all that, the other completely games and daily stuff.
I personally did this before i moved to a pure laptop workflow.

Partition 1: Windows + Work Applications
Partition 2: Current Work
Partition 3: Storage Bin
Partition 4: Games Only
Partition 5: Sandbox
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Originally Posted by ivr56 View Post

I personally did this before i moved to a pure laptop workflow.

Partition 1: Windows + Work Applications
Partition 2: Current Work
Partition 3: Storage Bin
Partition 4: Games Only
Partition 5: Sandbox

Did it work nicely for you after using it for a while?
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I think the main problem would be that I don't think you can have a monitor plugged into the nvidia cards, and use the w8000 at the same time. Or vise versa, wouldn't be able to game on the 780's with the monitor plugged into the w8000.

I think the best thing would be to dual boot (workstation OS with just w8000 driver, and game OS with just nvidia driver). Then, make sure to get a monitor that does both DP and DVI (or DVI and HDMI if 1080p). You could have the w8000 on the Display port, and the 780's on the DVI. Then hopefully you would just have to hit (source) on the monitor after booting the OS.

Another advantage with having dual OS is you could just completely disable the nvidia or AMD cards in device manager on the respective OS.
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I don't think separate partitions are even needed. Just make the gaming card the primary card and the professional cards can do the rendering independently.

I know for sure that the drivers won't interfere with each other. For a while I had a HD 7870 and a GTX 660 running in tandem for folding.

Still for the sake of organization it may be best to go with two OS's.
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Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post

I think the main problem would be that I don't think you can have a monitor plugged into the nvidia cards, and use the w8000 at the same time. Or vise versa, wouldn't be able to game on the 780's with the monitor plugged into the w8000.

I think the best thing would be to dual boot (workstation OS with just w8000 driver, and game OS with just nvidia driver). Then, make sure to get a monitor that does both DP and DVI (or DVI and HDMI if 1080p). You could have the w8000 on the Display port, and the 780's on the DVI. Then hopefully you would just have to hit (source) on the monitor after booting the OS.

Another advantage with having dual OS is you could just completely disable the nvidia or AMD cards in device manager on the respective OS.


Appreciate the info! This exactly what I stated as my second method, I will be buying this LG monitor.

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Originally Posted by IvantheDugtrio View Post

I don't think separate partitions are even needed. Just make the gaming card the primary card and the professional cards can do the rendering independently.

I know for sure that the drivers won't interfere with each other. For a while I had a HD 7870 and a GTX 660 running in tandem for folding.

Still for the sake of organization it may be best to go with two OS's.

I have heard similar setups to yours, but yea I feel it would be best now with just going for two separate operating systems with the opposite cards disabled. Thanks for your insight!
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