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You could have linked the widely accepted, much more straight forward definition?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
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The expression anecdotal evidence refers to evidence from anecdotes.

As for cost, the shorter PCB does have less componentry. I believe svenge already noted how the short PCB had less power phases.

that doesn't differ:
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"information that is not based on facts or careful study"
"reports or observations of usually unscientific observers"
"casual observations or indications rather than rigorous or scientific analysis"
"information passed along by word-of-mouth but not documented scientifically"

reference designs do have less circuitry then what an AIB would partner use but it still does not support nvidia cut cost when making the card. the premium price of the added circuitry by the AIB partners is passed on to the customer.
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post #502 of 571
Anecdotal evidence is quite literally using evidence based on anecdotes, i.e. your personal experiences. The problem with doing this is that it doesn't represent a statistically acceptable sample size, so cherry picking and whatnot is possible. However, that doesn't apply at all here, and you have no idea how the term is used.

I'm comparing reference design to potential reference design, so "passing the costs on" is irrelevant if both designs are reference and sell at the same price.
post #503 of 571
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It's true actually. Don't tell me you don't even know about non-standard ATX form factored motherboards in the market. Companies do that, and that's completely fine.

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ah. but it isn't nearly as much as a smaller PCB that makes most of the mATX boards cheaper but lesser components such as expansion slots which leads to not needing the larger size . .
Asrock Z77 Extreme4 is a non-standard (smaller) ATX board that cost-cutting has led to quality issues.
post #504 of 571
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Anecdotal evidence is quite literally using evidence based on anecdotes, i.e. your personal experiences. The problem with doing this is that it doesn't represent a statistically acceptable sample size, so cherry picking and whatnot is possible. However, that doesn't apply at all here, and you have no idea how the term is used.

I'm comparing reference design to potential reference design, so "passing the costs on" is irrelevant if both designs are reference and sell at the same price.

i thank you very much for your continued attempt at swaying my knowledge of what anecdotal evidence is but i think i have a pretty good understanding after having to write several research papers and reading many many more in my career in the academic study of sociology, psychology and anthropology.

you made an observation and based on your experience as a premise drew a conclusion and then backed it by another's testimony.

still no hard facts.

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Asrock Z77 Extreme4 is a non-standard (smaller) ATX board that cost-cutting has led to quality issues.

yes they did make a slightly smaller and thinner PCB. also with the Z68Extreme-4 was the same design (which also used analogue instead of digtal VRMS) and that was confirmed by asrock to be a cost cutting.

and that relates to????
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post #505 of 571
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you made an observation and based on your experience as a premise drew a conclusion and then backed it by another's testimony.
This is quite incorrect, because I based my observation on very plain and obvious facts, not my own experience, because I don't even own any GeForce cards atm.
post #506 of 571
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yes they did make a slightly smaller and thinner PCB. also with the Z68Extreme-4 was the same design (which also used analogue instead of digtal VRMS) and that was confirmed by asrock to be a cost cutting.

and that relates to????
Z68 Extreme3 GEN3 was slipping from standard ATX form factor, the newly Z87 Extreme4 too when compared to the Extreme6. The "major" difference between the two is just the form factor and, it's to reduce the manufacturing cost. Get the point? Like I said, that's completely fine.
post #507 of 571
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yes they did make a slightly smaller and thinner PCB. also with the Z68Extreme-4 was the same design (which also used analogue instead of digtal VRMS) and that was confirmed by asrock to be a cost cutting.

and that relates to????
Z68 Extreme3 GEN3 was slipping from standard ATX form factor, the newly Z87 Extreme4 too when compared to the Extreme6. The "major" difference between the two is just the form factor and, it's to reduce the manufacturing cost. Get the point? Like I said, that's completely fine.

i beg your pardon if you had specified the asrock board, i would have known. but saying non standard ATX i believed would be referring to mATX; which i specifically mentioned.
Edited by looniam - 6/30/13 at 12:54am
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post #508 of 571
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you made an observation and based on your experience as a premise drew a conclusion and then backed it by another's testimony.
This is quite incorrect, because I based my observation on very plain and obvious facts, not my own experience, because I don't even own any GeForce cards atm.
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Is the shorter PCB easier to cool or something? Would one be better than the other for any particular reason?

I would think the shorter PCB is mainly for cutting costs. Nvidia seems to be doing a lot of that lately.

you call those fact?

ok, have it your way for you.
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Facts like the GTX 670 PCB is smaller and has less componentry than a full sized PCB like the GTX 680's?

Yes those are facts.

Do you need proof that extra componentry costs money now too?
post #510 of 571
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Facts like the GTX 670 PCB is smaller and has less componentry than a full sized PCB like the GTX 680's?

Yes those are facts.

Do you need proof that extra componentry costs money now too?
no.

since you actually are correct lets not push it and stop there . .
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