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I was actually eyeballing the GTX 760, which seems to be just a tab better than the 660ti (in most cases) and are about teh same price point.

My main decision to make is which mobo/cpu combo to buy. As you say ram does not matter as much.

Interesting that the 580 sells for over $200, I check some other forums and say people selling for 240-250 in June. So I essentially pay the taxes and get a bit of an upgrade if I can sell it for that much.

Yeah, the GTX 580 actually is still a better GPU for things like CAD than the GTX 680 (long story), so it's market value has not dropped too much.

I am reading the reviews about the 760. It is nothing special really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmGWyAyO9mc The AMD 7950 (overclocked and probably at stock for that matter) is still beating out the 760 and the 7950 is not a heck of a lot more.

Ram......yeah. This http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313345 is going to perform at stock just the same as this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233283

The big difference is 1) looks and 2) Overclock potential. In gaming, 1600mhz is really all you need so overclocking is not really useful. Even something crazy like 2400mhz will not get you more than roughly 5 FPS more than 1600mhz.
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post #12 of 17
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Just as a quick check these 4 would blow my budget, although I could offset the majority of vid card cost with a sale of my current one. What kind of overclock potential am I looking at with the 3770k for instance. I would hope I could reach 4.5 (obviously there is no guarantee).

ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $237.99
Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K $329.99
EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2765-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support w/ EVGA ACX Cooler Video Card $269.99
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Found a Intel Core i7-2600 for almost $100 less, would prolly grab that over the 3770
    
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For gaming, you do not need an i7. The difference between an i7 and an i5 is that the i7 has hyper threading. Hyper threading really only comes in handy for workstation type things; CAD, video editing, 3D rendering.

An i5 will give you all the horse power you could ever need.

The mobo is a giant waste of money. The asus sabertooth board has a bunch of gimiky features to jack up the price. The asrock extreme 4 z77 mobo will give you the same performance for a whole lot less.

RAM I guess is fine, but it seems a bit pricey. I bet you can find some for ~60 CAD.

Throw the money you saved at the GPU. The parts listed are what I would consider the best price to performance parts you can get. Anything more for someone in your shoes will notice diminishing return on investment. The ONLY thing that does not really suffer from this (in theory) is the GPU. The better the GPU is, the greater gaming performance you will have.
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post #15 of 17
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What would you suggest for video card then?

If I take these 3 thats roughly $600 with taxes (can probably find better prices shopping around). That would leave around $400 for GPU.

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http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=67547&vpn=GV-R797OC-3GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1065

IMO, this is one of the best deals on the market because it is essentially a AMD 7970 ghz edition being sold at the conventional 7970 price. Obviously, you can overclock it even further. After a decent OC, this card is VERY hard to beat at it's price point.

The only other card that compares at it's price point is the GTX 770. http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=84048&vpn=GV-N770OC-2GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1342

The issue is that the 7970 is a better card, but too many games are codded specifically for Nvidia in some way or another.

If you look at this chart http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/768?vs=829 you will see that the 7970 ghz (I know the card I linked is not a true ghz card, but it is so close that the ghz card will be a better representation of the performance) really outperforms the 770 in a lot of games and benchmarks. However, the more popular games favor the 770.

Keep that in mind when you choose your card.
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post #17 of 17
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Thanks for the input.

I picked up the ASRock Z77 and a Core i5-3570K today. Will pick up some ram later today, but haven't decided on a graphics card yet.

Oh joy, just hope everything works and I can get to overclocking today!
    
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