Originally Posted by Darth Scabrous
None of the AM3+ cpus have integrated graphics, so unfortunately, my only choices for integrated is sandy/ivy bridge, and the fm2. I'm trying to build a i3 version as well to see how that goes.
I guess that is why all the AM3+ boards I had didn't have integrated graphics... I thought it was just because I was buying enthusiast boards...
Well call me silly and slap me in the face...
The really really funny thing that you said earlier is that the most demanding game you have played was BIOSHOCK... INFINITE!!!
Yeh like that is not big deal... It only brings my 4.4GHz i5 and GTX 670 to it's knees so no big deal at all!
That made me laugh a bit...
I don't see a Intel integrated GPU doing much for a game like that even if it was an HD4000... anything less than an HD4000 would probably be pretty painful. I think (keyword think) that AMD offers better APUs but I may be totally wrong... I abandoned and I do mean abandoned AMD after Thuban... I owned 990FX AM3+ boards but I switched sides after Thuban (got bored no other reason). After Intel 1155 bored me (took about 2 weeks) I got into x58 1366 boards and chips which DID NOT bore me.
So really I can't tell you Intel is better or worse than AMD but I am fairly certain that aside from 3D graphics I would go for the i3 over the A10... some would say the opposite and I really don't feel I am a fanboy because I love AMD just I would personally grab the CHEEPEST Z77 or used Z68 motherboard and an i3.
You could really get a lot of value out of buying a used z68 motherboard... people are just throwing them away even though they are essentially the same as a z77 board.
Anyways at the price of that FM2 motherboard (which is shocking) you could buy an AsRock z77 for about the same or not much more. The power delivery on the cheapest z77 boards is anemic and I never go with anything that is less than 8+2 VRM but on systems I have built for others I have used the AsRock 4+1 boards many times and on all the 2500K and 3570K CPUs I have had no issue getting 4.2-4.4GHz I don't try for more and I limit the + offset that I give on those boards but I have never had anyone call me back and say hey my PC is bluescreening.
In other words against my better judgement I have had no issues achieving respectable clocks on i5s with the cheapest AsRock mobos.
The reason I bring that up is if 1 or even 2 years from now you decide you want to upgrade a 2500K, 3570K, 2700K, or 3770K would be a MAJOR upgrade and Haswell would not be that much better... plus you could grab a used 3770K in a year or two for probably the same as whatever i5 was current at the time. Although we really don't know how much the new avx2 instructions will matter yet... I would say out of all your options... 1155, FM2 or AM3+ is the route to go... Not haswell.Edited by givmedew - 6/25/13 at 9:55pm