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I've changed the topic of this thread as I'm no longer looking for a 120hz monitors thanks to mdrejhon's suggestions.

Basically, I'm looking for an 23" IPS monitor that can be overclocked to 72hz in full native resolution (1080p with 32 true bit color) via Toasty's CRU (I have a AMD card so I won't able to create custom res via CP). The reason for this is to get rid of or minimize the juddering while watching videos filmed in 24 frames (23.976) as well as for smooth gaming. With this in mind, I'll be using this monitor for gaming, watching, browsing and working.
I'm also looking for:
- Semi-glossy or a monitor that has least anti-glare treatment (I don't mind matter finished)
- No PWM flickering or a monitor with less flicker (something that won't strain my eyes/give me a headache while I'm using this monitor for a long duration)

After getting some suggestions and doing little research by myself, I was able to fund couple of monitors that meets my needs:
- ASUS VG23AH (confirmed for 72hz overclock)
- Samsung S24C570HL
- ASUS MX239H
- Samsung S24C750P (VA panel though it's pretty much half IPS and half TN)
- HP 23xi
- AOC i2367Fh (not very fond of AOC, need more impressions on this monitor)
- AOC i2369Vm ( // )

If there are any other suggestions, please tell me.

Thank you.
Edited by kanade96 - 6/27/13 at 6:48pm
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Basically when I’m on my PC, I won’t be gaming 100% as half of the time I’ll be watching (via video player), browsing and working (using words, excel) etc.
With that being said, do you think it would be good idea to get a 120hz monitor or should I get an IPS monitor? excluding gaming, my other top priority of getting 120hz monitor is to be able to watch any videos filmed in 24 frames (23.976 to be exact), without seeing any “judders” or lessen it.
Why not just get a standard monitor that can sync to 48Hz or 72Hz?
You can get a hell of a lot of great quality IPS and PVA LCD's that can do that.

24fps movie playback on 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz and 120Hz look exactly identical (in terms of motion judder) on LCD because they don't flicker (unless you use technologies such as LightBoost). Refresh repeats are indistinguishable on a flickerfree display, each movie frame is displayed for 1/24sec at all of those.

More than 90% of LCD's sold today, can sync to either 48Hz and/or 72Hz. You can add 48Hz or 72Hz via utilities such as ToastyX Custom Resolution Utility. Or via nVidia Control Panel (Custom Resolution button). Even on your existing monitor. Today. Right now. Try it?

Also, 120Hz (limited mostly to TN except for IPS overclocks) has poorer color quality than 48Hz or 72Hz.
Edited by mdrejhon - 6/26/13 at 8:19am
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Why not just get a standard monitor that can sync to 48Hz or 72Hz?
You can get a hell of a lot of great quality IPS and PVA LCD's that can do that.

24fps movie playback on 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz and 120Hz look exactly identical (in terms of motion judder) on LCD because they don't flicker (unless you use technologies such as LightBoost). Refresh repeats are indistinguishable on a flickerfree display, each movie frame is displayed for 1/24sec at all of those.

More than 90% of LCD's sold today, can sync to either 48Hz and/or 72Hz. You can add 48Hz or 72Hz via utilities such as ToastyX Custom Resolution Utility. Or via nVidia Control Panel (Custom Resolution button). Even on your existing monitor. Today. Right now. Try it?

Also, 120Hz (limited mostly to TN except for IPS overclocks) has poorer color quality than 48Hz or 72Hz.

Could you recommend me couple of 24 inch ISP/PVA LCD monitors that supports 48/72hz at 1920x1080 (with everything supported such as 32 true color etc)?

Also, my current monitor (BenQ G2420HD) doesn't support 48/72 hz as I've tried it on Toasty's CRU and it wasn't able to change it.
Edited by kanade96 - 6/26/13 at 11:48am
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Could you recommend me couple of 24 inch ISP/PVA LCD monitors that supports 48/72hz at 1920x1080 (with everything supported such as 32 true color etc)?

Also, my current monitor (BenQ G2420HD) doesn't support 48/72 hz as I've tried it on Toasty's CRU and it wasn't able to change it.
Random google search links found me these:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1768832 - mentions a few (S24C750P)
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1767580 - Samsung S27C750P
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/12543-viewsonic-vx2770smh-led-review-1920x1080-ips.html -- ViewSonic VX2770SMH-LED

May not be the best choices, but these are the ones with "72Hz" mentions.
Edited by mdrejhon - 6/27/13 at 2:38am
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Random google search links found me these:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1768832 - mentions a few (S24C750P)
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1767580 - Samsung S27C750P
http://wecravegamestoo.com/forums/monitor-reviews-discussion/12543-viewsonic-vx2770smh-led-review-1920x1080-ips.html -- ViewSonic VX2770SMH-LED

May not be the best choices, but these are the ones with "72Hz" mentions.

Hmmm, I'm not really keen on 27" as it's just too big for me to use it.

With that being said Samsung S24C750P interests me.
I also found ASUS VG23AH and ASUS MX239H which might meet my needs but I'm not really sure which to get.
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Hmmm, I'm not really keen on 27" as it's just too big for me to use it.

With that being said Samsung S24C750P interests me.
I also found ASUS VG23AH and ASUS MX239H which might meet my needs but I'm not really sure which to get.

Well there are no 24" 120Hz monitors that are worth buying simply for watching videos or general computing work. They are only worth buying if you're a competitive gamer.

27" 1440p is probably the perfect size for general computing and doing the things you say you want to do...and it also does 120Hz. So I'm not sure why you're talking about these 1080p TN panels that don't even do 120Hz.

I'm confused... Just get the Qnix, everything else is literally a waste of money for what you want to do.
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Well there are no 24" 120Hz monitors that are worth buying simply for watching videos or general computing work. They are only worth buying if you're a competitive gamer.

27" 1440p is probably the perfect size for general computing and doing the things you say you want to do...and it also does 120Hz. So I'm not sure why you're talking about these 1080p TN panels that don't even do 120Hz.

I'm confused... Just get the Qnix, everything else is literally a waste of money for what you want to do.

I've just changed my topic so I'm not longer looking for 120Hz monitors.

Is 27" 1440p really a perfect size for everything you do? I mean, I bought a Asus PB278Q just not long ago and returned it straight away as it was too big for me to use. The texts are so small to read and enlarging the texts won't help as it won't give me the desired size. Note that I've been using 24" monitor at 1920x1080 for the last couple of years so it might have been that I was overwhelmed by the size and the fact that the text was too small to read (my eyes are around 80~100cm away from the monitor). Not to mention the PWM flickering strained my eyes and gave me a minor headache while I was using it.
I might be over exaggerating here (and probably misinformed as well) but if I can make the texts on 27" readable same way as my previous 24" I'd gladly get it.

I'm not really interested in getting a Korean monitor as it's just risky in many ways (don't ask me why).
Edited by kanade96 - 6/27/13 at 2:55pm
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I've just changed my topic so I'm not longer looking for 120Hz monitors.

Is 27" 1440p really a perfect size for everything you do? I mean, I bought a Asus PB278Q just not long ago and returned it straight away as it was too big for me to use. The texts are so small to read and enlarging the texts won't help as it won't give me the desired size. Note that I've been using 24inch monitors for the last couple of years so it might have been that I was overwhelmed by the size and the fact that the text was too small to read (my eyes are around 80~100cm away from the monitor). Not to mention the PWM flickering strained my eyes and gave me a minor headache while I was using it.
I might be over exaggerating here (and probably misinformed as well) but if I can make the texts on 27" readable same way as my previous 24" I'd gladly get it.

I'm not really interested in getting a Korean monitor as it's just risky in many ways (don't ask me why).

I'm sitting about 100cm from my monitor right now and can read the text very easily...

Yes, it's the perfect size for working, browsing the internet, multitasking, etc. I mean you can make the text larger in internet browsers by holding ctrl+mousewheelup and I also think there are windows preference settings to set text size.

Well if you don't want to get Korean then I can't really think of any 27" 1440p monitors that aren't overpriced...so I guess just stick with a 24" 1080p 60Hz TN panel...although the thought of that makes me puke.gif
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I'm sitting about 100cm from my monitor right now and can read the text very easily...

Yes, it's the perfect size for working, browsing the internet, multitasking, etc. I mean you can make the text larger in internet browsers by holding ctrl+mousewheelup and I also think there are windows preference settings to set text size.

Well if you don't want to get Korean then I can't really think of any 27" 1440p monitors that aren't overpriced...so I guess just stick with a 24" 1080p 60Hz TN panel...although the thought of that makes me puke.gif

I can give another 27" a go but after having a bad experience with it I'm not sure if I should get one or not. According to you and many people, it sounds like I might be able to get used to it but...

Argh, I never though that picking a right monitor would be so damn hard.
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Another potential option is the Samsung S24C570HL which uses a PLS panel

http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/computer-peripherals/monitors/consumer/LS24C570HL/XK?subsubtype=series-5-led

It should have semi-glossy coating since it uses a PLS panel
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