AMD Athlon x2 340/370 and Athlon x4 740/750K/760K/BE Owners Club

agrims · Jun 26, 2013

Hello eveyone! I am starting a small, but all inclusive owners club for the gimped out A10 and A4 APU, otherwise known as the Athlon x2 340/370 and the Athlon x4 740/50k, and the new 760k/BE. Please know that as these are gimped APU's, they may have a good variance between overclocking chip to chip, as there are some reviewers running the same basic setups, and achieving much higher clocks. I was able to boot to 4.8Ghz, but it was not stable for very long.

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Please include a link to your CPU Z Validation for admission! Also, please PM me with the same link, and I will post up an owners list once I receive them.

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Most APU OC guides will help you achieve a good clock of up to 4.4Ghz fairly easily, and with the 760k, one should reach the 5+Ghz zone, as the comparable Richland A10 has breached the 5+ Ghz club.

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Basic system information:

74c is the absolute maximum recommended temperature for the 740/750k. Expect the same for the 760k.

1.55v is the maximum recommended voltage for the CPU on 740/50k. Expect the same to be true for the 760k.

Stock CPU/NB speed is 1600Mhz. ***Must be raised to a minimum of 2200Mhz for ram over 1866Mhz!!*** Will update once more information is released for the 760k.

1.325v is the maximum recommended voltage for the CPU/NB on the 740/750k. Expect the same for the 760k.

Optimum stable OC for CPU/NB is 2200Mhz. It has been reported to be stable at 2500Mhz, but this will affect overall system clocks/stability.

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When you're ready to post information on your CPU, please include the following to help others with settings:

- Motherboard brand, model, BIOS Version and Revision #.

- Multiplier, Bus Speed, Northbridge Clock.

- CPU VCore, CPU/NB Vcore, Vdroop settings, power saving features, and any other applicable settings you used to obtain max stable OC.

- Memory brand, model, OC speed, timings, and voltage.

- Cooling Solution.

- Power Solution.

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For optimal Overclocking, it is recommended that you purchase an A85X series motherboard, with good VRM cooling options, as these chips can be punishing on the motherboard!

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Please remember to update you're Bios with the most current revision for optimal support.

Time to get the word out and show this sub $90.00 CPU some love!

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Wanna show you're love for this CPU? Post this handy dandy code in you're sig!!!

Code:

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agrims · Jun 26, 2013

So here are my Specs:

Athlon x4 750K

MSI FM2-A85XA-G65 motherboard, Rev. 1.1, Bios version 7793v23

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Silverstone Strider 500w PSU

Corsair Vengeance 8GB 4*2 kit; 1600Mhz CL9.

Full system specs:

Bclk - 105

Multi - 42

CPU Freq - 4410.08 MHz

CPUv - 1.500v

CPU/NB - 21

CPU/NB Freq - 2210 MHz

CPU/NB v - 1.275v

CPU Vdroop Offset - 100%

CPU NB Vdroop Offset - 100%

C6 State - Disabled

SVM - Disabled

Cool n Quiet - Disabled

Spread Spectrum - Disabled

Turbo Core - Disabled

Bios CPU temp - 35c Idle / 52c IBT loading

DRAM OC'd to - 980 Mhz *2 (1960Mhz) @ 9-10-9-27-2T

Ram v - 1.65v

Current CPU Z validation:

http://valid.canardpc.com/2841097

System running stable with IBT, extreme test, 20 passes.

Justinbaileyman · Jun 30, 2013

Reserved For Me!!

Parts Will Be Here Wed..

Specs

CPU - AMD FM2 750K

Mobo - Gigabyte GA-F2A85X-UP4

Memory - Crucial 16gb DDR3 1600 CAS-8 1.35v

HeatSink - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

PSU - Rosewill 650w

Cpuz Validation

http://valid.canardpc.com/2884674

agrims · Jun 30, 2013

Welcome to the family! And the wolfpack groweth! I will start making an owners list today, and I am pumped to see what you're setup will net you for overall OC-ability.

My new optimum setup, a bit faster all around, save the ram, but the funny thing is, is that it runs faster at it's rated specs, so I am going to try and tighten it up a bit, as running all stock speeds, and with ram set to 1600 but at 7-7-7-23, it screams, it is actually faster than 1866, and is closer to 2133 than running it at 1960 that it was!

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2848297

Enjoy the deliciousness! My overall goal is to see how stable I can get it, but with the MSI board, although ranks #3 on the ATX A85 offerings currently, and has the coolest VRM's due to the oversized heatsinks and heat pipe, the damned overvolt protection that they added is killing me! OC'ing on this board is taking a painful amount of time, as it fights you after 4.4Ghz. I am working around it and learning as I go, and I do highly recommend the board as it is high on the features, it just sucks being the first one to punish it, and sucks more that MSI decided that AMD couldn't provide the appropriate OV protection on the chips..

BTW, with the Vcore offset to 100%, the board reads 1.568, as this was taken with the CPU at 100% IBT extreme loading, and Bios Vcore was set to 1.500v. The Bios reads the voltage a bit higher than it actually is pulling, as with my multimeter hooked up, I am pulling 1.501v at that loading..

agrims · Jun 30, 2013

http://valid.canardpc.com/2848872

4.5v 12hr stable Prime 95, Small FFT's... I has to go down to stock ram right now, but it is a work in progress! Happier by the minute. The CPUv is 1.55 set in Bios, and it has been checked with the multi at the rail, only 1/100th of a volt off! The trick I found out on this board, is to ENABLE CPU OCP, and CPU/NB OCP. Once the board reads 1.55, it throttles, but if you split hairs with the voltage, it throttles!

Wumbologist · Jun 30, 2013

Thanks for making this thread

Anything above 4.2 on my 750k seems to require lots of voltage or maybe I'm doing something wrong? My temps are fine, never go above 50c.

http://valid.canardpc.com/2849115 Asrock Extreme4 A85X

And isn't 1.55 a bit much?

Justinbaileyman · Jun 30, 2013

You should set your voltage to 1.5v and see if you cant squeeze out a few more Mhz I am sure you could get 4.4-4.5 with out any problems.
These are only 65w cpus so you should be good in volts all the way up to 1.65v.
Just make sure you have proper cooling...
Also you may want to bump up your NB +25 and set it to 2400Mhz that should help a bit.

Wumbologist · Jun 30, 2013

Thanks for the response, will my board be able to handle it? I have a noctua nh c14 blowing on top of the vrm heatsink

agrims · Jun 30, 2013

They claim it has a max safe voltage of 1.55v, but running what I'm running, it is at a temp of 59-61c with p-95 small FFTs. I am sure with solid air cooling, you could push up to 1.7v and be within thermals honestly! Post up all you're system specs and I can give you better help!

agrims · Jun 30, 2013

How hot does HWmonitor say the VRMs are getting? It'll be the second temp in the system temp section. At 1.55v CPU core, mine runs 63c under load.

Wumbologist · Jun 30, 2013

Which one is it sorry?

http://puu.sh/3rXIT/fb9d0a229c.png

agrims · Jun 30, 2013

It's AUXTIN. That seems normal if its at load when you took the pic. If not, it's about 10c hotter than it could be, but it is dependent on how efficient the cooling is.

Justinbaileyman · Jun 30, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wumbologist

Thanks for the response, will my board be able to handle it? I have a noctua nh c14 blowing on top of the vrm heatsink

Yes your board can handle it as a matter of fact over at anandtech.com they have a review of your motherboard and they claim your mobo is the best for overclocking.
They Overclocked a 5800K to 5.0GHz max and 4.5Ghz for everyday usage.
So if they can do that with a 5800K I am sure you could get 4.5GHz with a 750K!!
I will look for the review for you and post it here.

Wumbologist · Jun 30, 2013

My Auxtin is always 63c lol, I've never seen it change :s

I think the motherboard that achieved the highest OC was the Extreme 6 version (I have Extreme 4 M as my case cannot take ATX)

Could the VRM temps be Systin? On Asrock AXTU it shows my MB temp which is same as Systin on HWmonitor, CPUTIN is my CPU and the other two are always the same regardless

damric · Jun 30, 2013

No love for the 370k?

Thinking of pushing 1.8v like I did with my bd. these high leakage chips love volts.

agrims · Jul 1, 2013

Your SYSTIN is exactly that, overall MB temp. The VRMs are something that is monitored separately, though also residing on the MB as they get hotter than hell.

And yes, Damric, you can get some love too! Changed title to allow the small tikes in as well.

Cheshire · Jul 1, 2013

Can I join?

750K on a FM2A85X Extreme 4m and CM Seidon
4500 on 1,475 still testing, but stable so far
What are you guys using/ is recommended for temp reading AMD CPU's.?

If you read reviews of the 6800K, 4700 is easily done with a 760K. I'm thinking of buying one

agrims · Jul 1, 2013

Welcome, but please do submit a CPU-Z validation on the thread, and the remaining requirements on the first post.

Best temps for me are reflected in my Bios, I can pull up my Bios in Windows, and that gives me a good read while I test. Also, If you use HW monitor, it works, but adds about 10c to the temp, at idle, and shoots up to 120c plus at load, which I believe is bogus, as at 120+, it would go 10 mile island on me. Also, a finger to the side of the CPU tells me that as well.

I would venture to say that the 760 would reach 5Ghz+ easily, as the 5800K doesn't like to go a hair over 4.4, but the 750K reaches 4.5-4.8.

Cheshire · Jul 1, 2013

OK, when I'm home I'll provide the extra info and CPU-Z validation

Cool, just ordered the 760K. I have something to play around with this weekend. My 24/7 goal will be 4700 but 4800 or higher (gaming-stabile)would be awesome

Justinbaileyman · Jul 2, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wumbologist

Which one is it sorry?

http://puu.sh/3rXIT/fb9d0a229c.png

I just looked at your cpuz link and noticed your cpu speed is fluctuating so you need to turn off every power saving feature in your bios such as AMD cool and quiet ,Ciest,Auto anything,power step ect...
The set your ratio to 45 and your cpu voltage to 1.45-1.5v and that will fix all your problems with temps and stability.

agrims · Jul 3, 2013

The new CPUZ has better monitoring software, and it reports fluctuations. CPU's are never truly locked in to their set speed. He may need up to 1.55v to get his CPU to 4.5, that's what I needed. Also, besides turning off all the power saving modes, set Vdroop offset for CPU to 100%. If you aren't pushing the NB over 2200, you don't need to worry about the NB Vdroop offset.

Justinbaileyman · Jul 3, 2013

Thats odd usually when overclocking to a set speed with ratio the cpu is set at that speed stepping and doesnt fluctuate at least not on any cpu's I've been playing with unless power saving is on some where.
Also my 2 cpu's showed up a day early so now all I am waiting for is my motherboard to get here.
I was expecting the cpu boxes to be a bit larger.... they are so tiny and cute LOL.
I will for sure have to use my hyper 212 evo cause the stock heatsink is not going to cut it.
AMD really cheaped out on there stock heatsinks

I guess what can you expect for $75 bucks right??

agrims · Jul 3, 2013

Yeah, the old software didn't fluctuate, but there are several threads just from this week on the subject.. Also, yeah the boxes are damn near cute! That mobo needs to hurry up huh? All of the APU heat sinks are the same size, they are heavy as hell to be so damn small. I am sitting stable at 57c and 4.5. I tried bumping the NB to 25, but it slows down the proccie a bit. Best setting is 2200 NB speed.

Justinbaileyman · Jul 4, 2013

My Motherboard and Memory arrived last night but I cant put it all together till I get a new power supply.
Any recommendations on brand and wattage I should use??
Also what Video Card should I pick up??
The Last card I bought was a Nvidia EVGA GTX 9800 Extreme 2GB Version which still works great and is still pretty fast when playing games like Crysis, NFS,Bio Shock ect...
Should I just pick up another one off ebay and SLI them or would picking up a newer single card be way fast and stronger??
Please let me know so I can pick them up for this week end.

agrims · Jul 4, 2013

Any solid brand psu will be money in 500w if going single GPU. If going for broke, I would get a 650w, but only for xfire. I am running a silver stone strider 500w psu and radeon 7850 2gb. This can run every game I play maxed.

Castaa · Jul 4, 2013

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justinbaileyman

My Motherboard and Memory arrived last night but I cant put it all together till I get a new power supply.
Any recommendations on brand and wattage I should use??
Also what Video Card should I pick up??
The Last card I bought was a Nvidia EVGA GTX 9800 Extreme 2GB Version which still works great and is still pretty fast when playing games like Crysis, NFS,Bio Shock ect...
Should I just pick up another one off ebay and SLI them or would picking up a newer single card be way fast and stronger??
Please let me know so I can pick them up for this week end.

Definitely go with a newer DX11 card if you have the money. GTX 760 is looking pretty good. Radeon 7870 Tahiti LE also good. Both around $250. PC game requirements are about to get relatively demanding again due to the next gen consoling games coming out in the next 6-12 months. Crysis 3 is an example of this, albeit an extreme one. Invest in a good GPU.

A 500W PSU would be a minimum, give yourself some headroom.

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