Originally Posted by MrJava
FM2+ is the budget/mainstream platform, I doubt you'll see chips targeted towards your use case on that socket. Obviously AMD will want something to sell into the market for video editing, rendering and CAD which for now will be the higher end Opterons to go along with FirePro cards.
Ideally they will have a new, separate platform with more memory channels and wider I/O for high-end desktop/workstation and sell a budget CPU on that platform (somewhat akin to the i7-3820).
I feel bad having to repeat myself with you so much but you seem to be one of the few people who understands that an APU only future for AMD isn't going to work out and I'm hoping that others who disagree with me and you will read what we're saying.
Your points about FirePro got me thinking that FirePro evolving and AMD hiring important people from Nvidia's Quadro division and AMD pushing HSA should be a huge indicator that HSA is coming to HEDT and it's going beyond APUs.
I wish more people would understand that HSA will not replace a traditional CPU and that there will always be workloads where a solid 4m/8c or greater CPU will benefit far more than thousands of GCN cores.
Additionally, for all the "APU only in the future" folks, the reason why AMD is pushing APU right now is because it's easier to get HSA working on an APU. You have control of all communications between CPU and GPU. If you want CPU and dGPU HSA, you have to go over some sort of bus, probably PCIe if you were to do HSA now. That's not nearly enough bandwidth.
Once AMD gets HSA working with dGPUs, a single socket APU for HSA will be completely obsolete.
Imagine a situation where we have Kaveri APU vs SR FX class chip + R9 290x class GPU and ALL platforms support HSA (this is theoretical). The APU would not come anywhere near the performance of the dCPU and dGPU setup. In fact, when AMD gets this platform up and HSA is up and running (assuming it makes it to that point), APUs won't be needed anymore and they will be relegated to mobile and embedded situations where power consumption is key (like gaming consoles, laptops, etc).
Everything else will be served by HSA enabled platform with multiple GPUs if needed and a very strong CPU. I wish some of you who keep ranting that AMD's future is only APU would think beyond the year 2014.
If you still don't believe me, look:
If AMD was going APU only, why would they need context switching between dGPU?
Read that. You don't even have to go that far. HSA calls for a strong CPU for latency compute and a strong GPU for throughput compute. AMD isn't going to relegate itself to 2m/4c parts that are barely able to keep up with the Intel of 3 years ago and a GPU that barely makes it to dGPU territory.
I hope we can get off the APU ONLY train now.